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God Proven to Exist According to Mainstream Physics

DennisTate

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Finally! Now I can sue Omega point for crimes against humanity, ecological disasters, and mass extinctions!

I would not go there if I were you!

The very first thing that I would do would be to FORGIVE fundamental energy Mom and Dad for whatever pain or inconvenience has came upon you due to their attempts to invent other forms of life.

Dr. Michael Yeager may have seen what type of neighborhood God the Father and God the Mother (who may well be identifiable with The Holy Spirit of Christian fame), grew up in. I assume the worms might be SuperSTrings as perceived by Dr. Yeager's soul/spirit/higher dimensional hard drive device:


Dogmatic Atheists Lack Mathematical Aptitude.: Did God Evolve?


 
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I would not go there if I were you!

The very first thing that I would do would be to FORGIVE fundamental energy Mom and Dad for whatever pain or inconvenience has came upon you due to their attempts to invent other forms of life.
Tell that to my lawyer
 
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If you will do a search for Dr. Chet Snow you will find what within fifty years may turn out to be replicable, verifiable, anecdotal evidence.....(true, not proof, just evidence), that the past exists and has been recorded and can be energized at any time by God....which would mean fully replicated including all of us. Then another branch of time can be spun off that can be vastly and astonishingly better than what happened previously....in a time period that looks for all the world like the future????!!!!

Do a search for Dr. Chaim Henry Tejman and his writings on time to read more about this....but my point is that what you and I decide to do today....does not merely affect the rest of our life...this life....but will also affect each and every replication of this time period...no matter how many times God does an Ezekiel 37 on what we think of as 2012 or 2013 or 2014???!!!!

After His experiences with Lucifer.....NOBODY....AND I MEAN NOBODY.....makes it into the higher dimensional paradise devoid of humility and some thankfulness to fundamental energy Dad and Mom! For our own sake and of everybody around us....no matter how high our IQ is.....we had better leave Messiah and God the Father on Their Thrones.....and we may as well admit that no matter how tough our old neighborhood may have been.....planning and orchestrating those first two or thee thousand Big Bang experimental events was tough beyond our ability to even begin to imagine!!!!
 
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Tell that to my lawyer

Yes, you probably should....because it seems obvious from the NDE of Dr. Richard Eby that God the Father and God the Mother are never again going to have a Lucifer....prideful and legalistic....Haman type of person in any high and exalted place in heaven!!!!!


http://www.christianforums.com/t7647325/
Yom Kippur/The Rapture connection?!



Dr. Richard Eby

 
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Yes and Elvis lives on the moon and Nibiru came and destroyed the world the day before yesterday and Jesus spoke English and.... Oh why do I even bother
 
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So after reading through the posts up to this point, I have come to the conclusion that no one here has yet to build a good case against the OPs arguments regarding Tipler's work. Now of course we all know that the current absence of a good counter-argument does not necessarily mean the theory has been proven true, but if it is such bunk as many atheists here no doubt believe it is, then why has no one presented a logical, well thought out, sincere response to Tipler's work?
 
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as I've pointed out in my first post, what I know about Tipler's work idea sufficient for me to disregard it as any kind of proof. but if you know better, you're welcome to correct me.
 
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If I were to present to you equivalent work purporting to prove that the Earth is hollow and people live in its core and fly out with saucers at the North pole; Should I expect you to come up with a serious counter argument?

For all I care Tipler's work is no different to all the crackpot pseudoscientific claims abound!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuNUs1OZAY0
 
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Because this "work" is neither logical or well thought out. Inserting randomly chosen physics jargon and formatting text like a paper doesn't make it any more true.

Tipler has been responded to, many, many times more than the idea deserves. Some fringe ideas are at least interesting fringe ideas, this guy and the likes of Ruggero Santilli are just too dull to even bother with, and Tipler is a pretty sad example of how someone can be brilliant and subsequently...not so much. The spelling mistakes and random CAPITALS are a good red flag to watch out for.
 
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Elioenai26

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as I've pointed out in my first post, what I know about Tipler's work idea sufficient for me to disregard it as any kind of proof. but if you know better, you're welcome to correct me.

Hmm....

Well since Tipler is no doubt more knowledgeable on the subject.....

I will tend to give his view slightly more credence than yours.
 
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Elioenai26

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Isn't this the crackpot calling the kettle black?

Sorry.... I simply couldn't resist! Lol!
 
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I find it hysterical, that while I'm lurking on these physical/life science threads, I keep seeing the same silly points again and again. A christian posts a relevant scientific argument, and the atheists/agnostics/etc, come out of the woodwork with ad homs galore, or a simple I'm too busy to actually look at what you've posted! ^____^ yet in the same breath denounce the evidence as coming from some crackpot, and attacking the source rather than bothering to refute the science! C'mon guys! If its all nonsense from a crackpot, then it should be easy to dump like trash right? So let's get on with the sciencey stuff and drop the insult attacks! If I wanted to see insults, I'd turn on an old Don Rickles or George Carlin video! I came to this forum to see science!
 
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Easy; Speed of light limit does not allow for zero point to be an all encompassing intelligence. To put it simply it will take too long for one part of the universe to know what the other part is doing and thus decision making will be impossible.

Need I say more? No matter how hard you wish for science to come to the rescue and prove your deity to be real; It will never happen. CRACKPOT is the most apt word for such nonsense! Oh by the way Elvis lives on the moon!
 
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Every reference I can find to Tipler in serious scientific publications denounce his recent (last 20 years or so) work as unscientific, and most are far more scathing than that.

If someone were to prove the afterlife in a scientific way they would gain massive fame, wealth, a highly presitigous scientific job and a nobel prize.

If you want to disprove it then here goes. Tipler makes the following assumptions in his theory (I haven't listed all of them):


Sentient life must eventually engulf the entire universe and control it;

The amount of information processed between now and the Omega Point is infinite;

The amount of information stored in the universe asymptotically goes to infinity as the Omega Point is approached.

Can you honestly say that these 3 assumptions are valid?
 
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Elioenai26

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Haha, im right there with ya on this one!
 
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Hmm....

Well since Tipler is no doubt more knowledgeable on the subject.....

I will tend to give his view slightly more credence than yours.

What do you think of his argument, where "the resurrection of Jesus occurred when the atoms in his body spontaneously decayed into neutrinos and antineutrinos, which later converted back into atoms to reconstitute him."? The Physics of Christianity
 
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