God powers my flashlight.

[seebs]

God makes my flashlight run. I know this, because in the Bible, it says that God said "Let there be light". There are a lot of electricalists who claim that the flashlight is powered by things called "electrons", which are too small to see, but no one's ever seen one, only things they say are caused by electrons.

Electricalists are trying to remove God from His rightful position as the source of all light. They have a lot of weird theories, but they can't agree on exactly how anything works; sometimes, they say an electron is part of an atom, but other times, they say it's a particle - but an atom is the smallest particle, so that doesn't make any sense.

I think a lot of electricalists would change their tune if they didn't have such a strong committment to denying God. No one can deny that an omnipotent God could create light in a way that we might mistakenly interpret as having to do with these so-called "electrons", but the Bible says that God made light, so we know that's not so.

I defy the electricalists to prove that God doesn't provide the light for my flashlight.

 

[Jerry Smith]

What evidence would you require to accept electricalism? Is there any evidence that you wouldn't turn around and say "that's evidence for LTBL just as well"?

We cannot observe electrons directly, but there is plenty of good evidence for them.

-Jerry the "Straight Man"

 

[seebs]

I would need to see an actual electron, not just this so-called "evidence". I don't see how you people can be so confident of them; you've never observed an actual electron! It's always "this is consistent with our theory that..." or "we think this is a result of..." or some other stuff like that. If they're real, and they're really how all this stuff happens, why can't you see them?

I've heard the "they're too small" line. A pretty convenient excuse; if they're so small, why do you think they exist? Anyway, how can such small things possibly provide light? If I can't see them, how can I see them glowing?

 

[OneLargeToe]

Light is made of photons, not electrons.

 

[Blessed-one]

it's like saying, i can't see the wind but i can feel it. I can't see God but i can feel Him.
at one time my friend was asking persistently howcome the pigment colour of a leaf is green? because it helps with photosynthesis.
yeah, but howcome it's green?

 

[Late_Cretaceous]

The lies don't stop there either.
How many children have asked "why is the sky blue" only to be indoctinated with a lot of naturalistic BS about light waves and rayleigh scattering. BAH! Nobody has ever replicated the sky in a lab. It's just a theory! Rayleigh scattering cannot be proved, and it's unscientific too. The reason the sky is blue is because it's God's favorite color! Getting children to beleive in scattered photons takes away from the mystery and beauty of creation.


BTW, chlorophyll is green because it contains magnesium. Just as hemoglobin (which is nearly identical to chlorophyll) it red due to iron. Oh, no wait. That's just a theory!


The universe, and life on earth, is all far to complicated to have been designed.

 

[Kevin_Gould]

>>That's just a theory!

So is reality. And truth. And evidence. Just theories. Conciousness, just a theory. Time, just a theory. And if conciousness and time and reality are just theories... God, just a theory.

Oh and you might find the scientific version of theory radically different from the vernacular version.

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Electrons? What heathen insanity is this? Everyone knows flashlights are powered by tiny elephants.

And Jerry, if you believe in electrons so much, you stick a fork in an outlet and tell me that doesn't feel like an elephant kicking your @$$!

edit: darn the [expletive][expletive][expletive]censoring.

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by OneLargeToe
Light is made of photons, not electrons.

Oh, sure. And what is a photon, exactly? Is it a particle? Yes or no, please.

And if it's photons, why do you claim that batteries contain *electrons*?

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by Blessed-one
it's like saying, i can't see the wind but i can feel it. I can't see God but i can feel Him.
at one time my friend was asking persistently howcome the pigment colour of a leaf is green? because it helps with photosynthesis.
yeah, but howcome it's green?

Exactly! All this science stuff is totally unsupported. The electricists have a theory that exists only to try to drive people from appreciating the wonder of God's creation of light.

 

[Satoshi]

You guys had better hope that randman doesn't get wind of this thread.  After all, it's demons who power your flashlight.  Except we need to free our mind from it's box so that we can see that the demons are using electrons to power that flashlight.

OTOH, perhaps npetreley will be congratulating us on not believing in these "imaginary" electrons while exposing the multiple lies of the electricists.

 

[chickenman]

photons and electrons are a combined nazi/communist plot. Albert Einstein, who proposed the so called "photo-electric" effect, was a nazi spy, sent to america to subvert our christian ideals

 

[seebs]

I have been wondering why Randman and Nick haven't stepped in to help me defend God's majesty against the inroads science is making against the faith. It seems a bit hypocritical to me not to judge all scientific theories by the same standards; clearly, they can see that their arguments would apply just as well here!

 

[bumpas10]

Try taking the batteries out of your flashlight and see if God is still in there.

 

[Kevin_Gould]

*chuckles*

Seebs isn't serious. He's making fun of some people and I think they don't get it. Hmmm...

Maybe the joke's on me. Here's to hoping its not!

:-D

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by bumpas10
Try taking the batteries out of your flashlight and see if God is still in there.

Why? I have faith.

 

[Freodin]

Now I see the truth! You have converted me! I bow down to the glory of god!!!


Err, that would be Zeus, the God of Lightnings, right?

 

[seebs]

Charming, but obviously false; the Bible says God created light.

I really am surprised that none of the creationists are supporting me in this. Perhaps their standards of proof vary with the emotional importance of a result?

 

[Joe V.]

+++
And what is a photon, exactly? Is it a particle? Yes or no, please.
---
Well the scientists claim that a photon is a particle AND a wave. It's both! How can it be both? Those scientists have made it all up and hid their answers behind a boatload of complicated math.

- Joe

 

[LouisBooth]

*sigh* I believe in evoltion, so therefore lets kill everything we can to weed out the weak and unfit genes...Seebs how do you like strawmen?