God-philosophy, does it permeate?

[Gottservant]

Hi there,

So I am just wondering if you are able to put the words God and philosophy together meaningfully - in a sense, that coheres.

Possible?

 

[Davian]

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• Davian
• Jul 4, 2015

 

[variant]

Hi there,

So I am just wondering if you are able to put the words God and philosophy together meaningfully - in a sense, that coheres.

Possible?

What's wrong with your sentence?

And if your sentence (which is basically a question) isn't coherent how can you expect it's answer to be?

 

[plummyy]

Write your questions with more clarity.

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To philosophize anything simply means to study it, learn, and the study of god can certainly be part of philosophy (there is no question about it, that "god" already is one of the most popular topics for philosophy).

What are you asking, exactly?

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Theology is one thing, cheese is another.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Theology is one thing, cheese is another.

And only Christians believe in cheeses

 

[icedbun]

But isn't philosophy used to try and justify belief in god by people like William Lane Craig? It seems to me that since Anselm philosophy has been used this way and is, indeed, still a significant study.

 

[Gottservant]

It's not impossible, that you are making it far harder than it needs to be (just saying).

I would use a hyphen.

I would put it between God and philosophy (and start there).

 

[True Scotsman]

Hi there,

So I am just wondering if you are able to put the words God and philosophy together meaningfully - in a sense, that coheres.

Possible?

Well yes because the question of gods is a highly philosophical issue. It has to do with the very most fundamental issue of philosophy, metaphysical primacy. fortunately we can answer this question of whether there is a god with an unflinching no because reality has metaphysical primacy over consciousness. If there were a god that created everything in existence then consciousness would have primacy. It doesn't so we need not dwell on the question any further.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Wasn't the contemplation of "god" the beginning of philosophy?

 

[True Scotsman]

Wasn't the contemplation of "god" the beginning of philosophy?

No. Contemplation of the world we live in.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Well yes because the question of gods is a highly philosophical issue. It has to do with the very most fundamental issue of philosophy, metaphysical primacy. fortunately we can answer this question of whether there is a god with an unflinching no because reality has metaphysical primacy over consciousness. If there were a god that created everything in existence then consciousness would have primacy. It doesn't so we need not dwell on the question any further.

That would mean abandoning everything that isn't mundane materialism; art, music, social sciences, even (yikes) philosophy. Education would be reduced to one course: "How...To...Get...FOOD".

 

[True Scotsman]

That would mean abandoning everything that isn't mundane materialism; art, music, social sciences, even (yikes) philosophy. Education would be reduced to one course: "How...To...Get...FOOD".

How does this follow?

 

[Gottservant]

Wasn't the contemplation of "god" the beginning of philosophy?

Technically, yes.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom (Proverbs) and philosophy is defined as the love of Wisdom.

In principle, then, philosophy is being in love with the fear of God (to begin with).

 

[Gottservant]

Well yes because the question of gods is a highly philosophical issue. It has to do with the very most fundamental issue of philosophy, metaphysical primacy. fortunately we can answer this question of whether there is a god with an unflinching no because reality has metaphysical primacy over consciousness. If there were a god that created everything in existence then consciousness would have primacy. It doesn't so we need not dwell on the question any further.

I think metaphysical primacy is secondary, but no less fundamental.

What I think you may be overlooking, is that reality runs out, but it is up to God whether He runs out before or after reality (a choice he tells you about, actually).

 

[variant]

That would mean abandoning everything that isn't mundane materialism; art, music, social sciences, even (yikes) philosophy. Education would be reduced to one course: "How...To...Get...FOOD".

There is nothing mundane about materialism.

If it is true than somehow "mundane material" has produced consciousness that created, gods, art, music social sciences and philosophy.

 

[Placeholder]

Hi there,

So I am just wondering if you are able to put the words God and philosophy together meaningfully - in a sense, that coheres.

Possible?

Well, theosophy has already been taken but I assume that is the kind of thing you mean - creating a word that combines the ideas of God and philosophy?

 

[Chriliman]

Hi there,

So I am just wondering if you are able to put the words God and philosophy together meaningfully - in a sense, that coheres.

Possible?

Easy, if you put God and philosophy together you get Jesus of Nazareth. You combine perfection with human thought and you get a sinless man. Jesus is the answer to philosophy and God.

Just some thoughts

God bless!

 

[OldWiseGuy]

There is nothing mundane about materialism.

If it is true than somehow "mundane material" has produced consciousness that created, gods, art, music social sciences and philosophy.

Mundane materialism is the antithesis of higher thought; religion, art, music, social sciences, philosophy.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Most pro-God philosophers are foundationalists AFAICT, they try to establish God's existence as a foundational fact in isloation from the rest of the cognitive universe. On the other hand most anti-theists use the cognitive world of science and logic to debunk theological claims indirectly, so they are more coherentist.

On the one side we might have the kalam argument.

On the other a look at the errors in "revealed scripture" and the logical implications for scripure based belief.