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<blockquote data-quote="Jet Black" data-source="post: 16211327"><p>do we? is it even possible to do so? that said though, I don't think that GOTG is the right counterargument. a more appropriate problem you are faced with is something along the lines of Gödel's incompleteness theorem, or just plain old question begging.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, although you repeatedly make the point that the inflation field or whatever has these "God like qualities" you are not faced with a problem - these things first of all are not independent of the universe, they are in a very real sense, the universe, just described in a way we do not fully understand yet. Furthermore, these things are about as caring as the universe. we do not attribute fields with being sentient, loving their creation, and impregnating virgins with babies in order to alter the flow of some society on a little speck of rock, three out from an insignificant star in an insignificant galaxy in an insignificant cluster of some quiet little backwater spot of the universe. To me, those other qualities of sentience and love are somwhat superfluous. yeah sure we can say that "if something caused the universe to be" then it must share quantities with God, but those would be a minimal set. you have to explain all the other qualities and why they have to be before you can "choose your favourite position"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jet Black, post: 16211327"] do we? is it even possible to do so? that said though, I don't think that GOTG is the right counterargument. a more appropriate problem you are faced with is something along the lines of Gödel's incompleteness theorem, or just plain old question begging. Furthermore, although you repeatedly make the point that the inflation field or whatever has these "God like qualities" you are not faced with a problem - these things first of all are not independent of the universe, they are in a very real sense, the universe, just described in a way we do not fully understand yet. Furthermore, these things are about as caring as the universe. we do not attribute fields with being sentient, loving their creation, and impregnating virgins with babies in order to alter the flow of some society on a little speck of rock, three out from an insignificant star in an insignificant galaxy in an insignificant cluster of some quiet little backwater spot of the universe. To me, those other qualities of sentience and love are somwhat superfluous. yeah sure we can say that "if something caused the universe to be" then it must share quantities with God, but those would be a minimal set. you have to explain all the other qualities and why they have to be before you can "choose your favourite position" [/QUOTE]
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