God as Mother.

[Thatgirloncfforums]

In what ways is God our actual Mother?

 

[ewq1938]

In what ways is God our actual Mother?

None.

God is:

1. God the Father
2. God the Son.
3. God the Holy Spirit.

There is no such thing as "God the Mother"

God the Father had a wife, but she was not a mother but was the children he created, Israel.
Same with Christ who has a bride, Christians, but that bride is not a mother either.

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

Then how can Eve reflect God's image? Also, what about Lady Wisdom in the OT?

None.

God is:

1. God the Father
2. God the Son.
3. God the Holy Spirit.

There is no such thing as "God the Mother"

God the Father had a wife, but she was not a mother but was the children he created, Israel.
Same with Christ who has a bride, Christians, but that bride is not a mother either.

 

[ewq1938]

Then how can Eve reflect God's image?

It's just a generalized image not a reproduction of a gender.

Also, what about Lady Wisdom in the OT?

Can you quote a verse where that is found? Thank you.

 

[Michie]

Then how can Eve reflect God's image? Also, what about Lady Wisdom in the OT?

Mary.

Wisdom is something that is received from another source. In the Bible, wisdom is received from God.


We can see the "Wisdom" of Proverbs personified as fulfilled in the life and person of the Blessed Virgin Mary

Mary as Wisdom Personified

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Then how can Eve reflect God's image? Also, what about Lady Wisdom in the OT?

The Holy Spirit. Spirit is not flesh and thus has no gender per se. However, the unique image and likeness of women most likely came from the Spirit of God.

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

It's just a generalized image not a reproduction of a gender.

Don't all things insomuch as they exist have their existence first in God?

Can you quote a verse where that is found? Thank you.

Bible Gateway passage: Proverbs 8 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

The Holy Spirit. Spirit is not flesh and thus has no gender per se. However, the unique image and likeness of women most likely came from the Spirit of God.

I've wondered about this, but doesn't this break up the Trinity? I mean to ask, aren't all things common to the three persons except their individual processions or lack thereof?

 

[ewq1938]

Don't all things insomuch as they exist have their existence first in God?

No.

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

Mary.

I've heard that Mary is created Wisdom but I have never been shown, why, other than she does many of the same things as Wisdom.

Wisdom is something that is received from another source. In the Bible, wisdom is received from God.

What about Christ--He's our Wisdom?

We can see the "Wisdom" of Proverbs personified as fulfilled in the life and person of the Blessed Virgin Mary

Mary as Wisdom Personified

I'll take a look. Thank you

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

No.

Then how do they exist, since God said, 'I Am'?

 

[ewq1938]

The Holy Spirit. Spirit is not flesh and thus has no gender per se. However, the unique image and likeness of women most likely came from the Spirit of God.

Actually women came from a man:

Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

 

[ewq1938]

Then how do they exist, since God said, 'I Am'?

See post 12.

 

[Michie]

Then how do they exist, since God said, 'I Am'?

The Lord created me, a beginning of His ways for His works' (Proverbs 8:22).Are you saying that Jesus was created? The better school of thoughts is that Church officially teaches is Jesus is "begotten" of the Father.And Mary as Arch.Fulton Sheen said is "God's DREAMED" in eternity also in CCC stating Ephesians1:3-4, Mary existed before the creation time begin.Jesus the "Begotten Son" of the Father "begots or create" the "soul of his Mother in eternity.

According to Catholicism, who is the Wisdom being described in Proverbs 8:22–36?

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

She's still a distinct being, right or is she just a distinct mode of being?

The Lord created me, a beginning of His ways for His works' (Proverbs 8:22).Are you saying that Jesus was created? The better school of thoughts is that Church officially teaches is Jesus is "begotten" of the Father.And Mary as Arch.Fulton Sheen said is "God's DREAMED" in eternity also in CCC stating Ephesians1:3-4, Mary existed before the creation time begin.Jesus the "Begotten Son" of the Father "begots or create" the "soul of his Mother in eternity.

Actually women came from a man:

Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

 

[Michie]

She's still a distinct being, right or is she just a distinct mode of being?

She is a distinct being but she had a unique role to play. God created her especially for her purpose and His plan.

 

[ewq1938]

She's still a distinct being, right or is she just a distinct mode of being?

Eve was a being created from another being.

 

[Michie]

I've heard that Mary is created Wisdom but I have never been shown, why, other than she does many of the same things as Wisdom.



What about Christ--He's our Wisdom

Yes. All wisdom comes from God. There is no Sophia.

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

The Lord created me, a beginning of His ways for His works' (Proverbs 8:22).Are you saying that Jesus was created?

No. But I do know that this was how Arius defended his proposition. I don't remember what the exact reply was. There is an uncreated Wisdom and a created one. In the hymn, ' O Come O Come Emmanuel' we laud Christ as 'Wisdom' and Paul refers to Christ as the 'Wisdom of God'.

The better school of thoughts is that Church officially teaches is Jesus is "begotten" of the Father.And Mary as Arch.Fulton Sheen said is "God's DREAMED" in eternity also in CCC stating Ephesians1:3-4, Mary existed before the creation time begin.Jesus the "Begotten Son" of the Father "begots or create" the "soul of his Mother in eternity.

According to Catholicism, who is the Wisdom being described in Proverbs 8:22–36?

I think God dreamt us all. Eg, Before you were born, I knew you...'. But this doesn't mean I or Mary consciously created the Universe.[/Quote]

 

[Michie]

Given the gifts of knowledge and understanding which perfect faith, the gift of wisdom perfects the virtue of charity. Wisdom empowers a person “to judge and order all things in accordance with divine norms and with a connaturality that flows from a loving union with God.” So while knowledge and understanding enable a person to know and to penetrate the divine truths, wisdom moves us to “fall in love” with them. The Holy Spirit aids the contemplation of divine things, enabling the person to grow in union with God.

This gift unites us to the heart of Jesus. Father Adolphe Tanquerey taught, “This, then, is the difference between the gift of wisdom and that of understanding, the latter is a view taken by the mind, while the former is an experience undergone by the heart; one is light, the other love, and so they united and complete one another. Wisdom, withal, remains the more perfect gift; for the heart outranges the intellect, it sounds greater depths, and grasps or divines what reason fails to reach. This is particularly the case with the saints, in whom love often surpasses knowledge” (The Spiritual Life, p. 630). For example, St. Therese of Lisieux (declared a doctor of the church), had no formal education in theology, and yet was wise to the ways of the Lord, a wisdom gained through prayer and simple acts of love offered to God.

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What are the Gifts of Understanding and Wisdom? - Catholic Straight Answers