God and Abortion

[stevencarrwork]

Why does an all-loving, all-powerful God allow evil to exist?

Which of the following statements are true?

1) God has a perfectly valid reason to allow abortion to exist
2) There are no valid reasons to allow abortion to exist

 

[BarbB]

I believe that God has a valid reason for allowing abortion to exist AT THIS TIME. Now what?

 

[e=mv^2]

Why does an all-loving, all-powerful God allow evil to exist?

Which of the following statements are true?

1) God has a perfectly valid reason to allow abortion to exist
2) There are no valid reasons to allow abortion to exist

Mankind was created with free will. We have the ability to choose to follow God or not. We have the ability to choose to do evil. Without the ability to choose to do something bad the choice to be good is moot.

In other words:
We have to have the ability to do evil in order to have free will.

1, 2 - Abortion was not created by God. He did not bring it to be. That was mankind doing something very very bad.

 

[flicka]

Neither of those statements are true.

And I don't think abortion is evil.

But what do I know?

 

[stevencarrwork]

I believe that God has a valid reason for allowing abortion to exist AT THIS TIME. Now what?

So we can count you as somebody who claims that there really is a valid reason to allow abortion to exist at this time?

And you would scoff at the idea that there can never be a valid reason to permit abortion to exist?

 

[stevencarrwork]

Mankind was created with free will. We have the ability to choose to follow God or not. We have the ability to choose to do evil. Without the ability to choose to do something bad the choice to be good is moot.

So if the US government banned abortion,that would interfere with the free will of US citizens?

 

[BarbB]

So we can count you as somebody who claims that there really is a valid reason to allow abortion to exist at this time?

And you would scoff at the idea that there can never be a valid reason to permit abortion to exist?

Yep, God is allowing abortion at this time for his own purposes.

I got all caught up in double negatives with your second statement. Sooooo, permitting something to exist to further one's plan does not mean that an all-powerful God approves of it! In other words, God hates abortion but is using it at this time.

btw, I was pro-abortion until 4 years ago.

 

[stevencarrwork]

Newlambd - 'Yep, God is allowing abortion at this time for his own purposes.'

Wow, abortion is being used by God for his own purposes?

Who would have thought Christians would say that?

Still, if God allows abortion, it would seem presumptous of George W. Bush to try to play God.

I wonder which of God's purposes are furthered by abortions? Should we hinder God's purposes?

 

[BarbB]

Just because God is allowing abortion at this time, doesn't mean that a Christian pro-lifer shouldn't do whatever it takes legally to stop the practice. This is what I meant about allowing. What if God is allowing the practice just to see where everyone lines him/herself up on the issue and what they do about it? Just a thought!

 

[e=mv^2]

So if the US government banned abortion,that would interfere with the free will of US citizens?

No, People can and do break the law quite often.

 

[stevencarrwork]

Just because God is allowing abortion at this time, doesn't mean that a Christian pro-lifer shouldn't do whatever it takes legally to stop the practice. This is what I meant about allowing. What if God is allowing the practice just to see where everyone lines him/herself up on the issue and what they do about it? Just a thought!

God allows lots and lots of babies to be killed, just to see what I think about the practice? (As if God didn't know already).

That is your valid reason to allow abortion to exist?

 

[Lucretius]

What is pro-abortion?

I'm pro-choice, not pro-abortion, if that is what you implied.

 

[BarbB]

It's not MY reason - but it might be God's reason.

 

[HeySeuss]

stevencarrwork said, "1) God has a perfectly valid reason to allow abortion to exist
2) There are no valid reasons to allow abortion to exist."

First of all, GOD does not make the laws in my country (The D.S.A). Elected (or appointed) politicians make the laws. Abortion is perfectly legal in America. So is a women's right to choose what she does to her body.

Abortion exists because it is a person's right to have one. The decision is made between a woman and her doctor. Not the politicians or pro-life fundamentalists. As far as a valid reasons, there are several of them. Here's a few:

Mother's Health
Baby may have health problem
Rape
Incest

They sound valid to me!

 

[HeySeuss]

stevencarrwork said, "God allows lots and lots of babies to be killed, just to see what I think about the practice? (As if God didn't know already)."
Babies die every day. Not all from abortion. Look at how many are dying from malnurishment, infanticide, disease, etc. Also look at how many are dying in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo and other areas the U.S. bombed with depleted uranium. Men exposed to DU carry it in their cells. When they get a woman pregnant, it passes to the fetus, causing severe deformities and stillborn deaths. Our soldiers are having deformed babies as well. Half of these deaths could be prevented, however, many people are too blind to see the truth.

 

[jsw_24]

Still, if God allows abortion, it would seem presumptous of George W. Bush to try to play God.

It would seem that if abortion, though it "may be" being used in the grander scheme of things @ this time, is still wrong in the eyes of God. Then it would make sense that a Chirstian president would try to eliminate the greater wrong.

 

[HeySeuss]

Wrong in the eyes of God? Where in The Bible does it mention "abortion?" Where does God condemn abortion?

The Devil in the White House needs to keep his mind off of our rights and focus on his "killing fields" in Iraq.

 

[Randall McNally]

btw, I was pro-abortion until 4 years ago.

You wanted everyone to have an abortion?

 

[Randall McNally]

No, People can and do break the law quite often.

But prohibition would certainly sharply reduce the number of abortions. Elimination is not necessary for there to be some free will issues.

 

[HeySeuss]

"But prohibition would certainly sharply reduce the number of abortions."

So would teaching "abstinence" and making it easier for women to get birth control! But no, the current adminstration has to pass their fundamentalist catered laws that make no sense. They are too stupid to see the light!