• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

GoldenKingGaze

Prevent Slavery, support the persecuted.
Mar 12, 2007
4,543
550
Visit site
✟306,286.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Single
Politics
AU-Labor
A thread about why evil exists today, before Christ's return. Why Satan exists, and his range of powers and cohorts. Why Jesus died on a cross, to face evil. Why He looked foolish. All this while God is almighty and all good. Also all knowing, knowing the end of the world from the beginning... The wisest ones.

This thread avoids the views of those who believe in predestiny and God choosing some to become evil and be lost.

So why does God seem to step back from stopping evils? Why is Satan so protracted in his reign? Why did Jesus have to die on a cross to defeat evil? Why did He undergo scarring and a bruised heel?

Why are people in Hell for eternity? Why does God lose souls? Why do bad things happen to good people?

Why did Adam fall in the first place?

Why is it that the world evangelism progresses so slowly?

I think God to a large extent loves our free will condition and has made it so interventions, at least on Earth are minimal, unless we ask and don't doubt. He wants a bride not a slave.

I think in creating Lucifer, God much valued the good of free will, and had to create a source of evil, because there was no way to create a near infinite number of free willing creatures without eventual rebellion. And Lucifer was the minimal and completely endable one. God knowing an infinite number of flow charts, of beings good and evil, when he chose to make some for real. So Lucifer, Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Adam and of course Jesus.

To what extent if any is there a purpose for evil?
 

Original Happy Camper

One of GODS Children I am a historicist
Site Supporter
Mar 19, 2016
4,195
1,973
Alabama
✟509,426.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
SDA
Marital Status
Married
A thread about why evil exists today, before Christ's return. Why Satan exists, and his range of powers and cohorts. Why Jesus died on a cross, to face evil. Why He looked foolish. All this while God is almighty and all good. Also all knowing, knowing the end of the world from the beginning... The wisest ones.

This thread avoids the views of those who believe in predestiny and God choosing some to become evil and be lost.

So why does God seem to step back from stopping evils? Why is Satan so protracted in his reign? Why did Jesus have to die on a cross to defeat evil? Why did He undergo scarring and a bruised heel?

Why are people in Hell for eternity? Why does God lose souls? Why do bad things happen to good people?

Why did Adam fall in the first place?

Why is it that the world evangelism progresses so slowly?

I think God to a large extent loves our free will condition and has made it so interventions, at least on Earth are minimal, unless we ask and don't doubt. He wants a bride not a slave.

I think in creating Lucifer, God much valued the good of free will, and had to create a source of evil, because there was no way to create a near infinite number of free willing creatures without eventual rebellion. And Lucifer was the minimal and completely endable one. God knowing an infinite number of flow charts, of beings good and evil, when he chose to make some for real. So Lucifer, Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Adam and of course Jesus.

To what extent if any is there a purpose for evil?

"of course Jesus"

are you stating that JESUS is a created being?
 
Upvote 0

GoldenKingGaze

Prevent Slavery, support the persecuted.
Mar 12, 2007
4,543
550
Visit site
✟306,286.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Single
Politics
AU-Labor
Jesus is the self existent Father of eternity, who came to us as we now celebrate, as a child, then also having, a human spirit, soul and body and a nature like ours of getting tired...
"of course Jesus"

are you stating that JESUS is a created being?
 
Upvote 0