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Simply put, the "elements" of abiogenesis mechanisms are a series of credible chemical reactions driven by physical conditions.
24 August 2018 dad: A lie about the meaning of circular reasoning (again?) and a possible lie that he knows anything about the tests of the fine structure constant.They look at how it is on earth and the fishbowl area. ....
30 August 2018 dad: A "based on certain beliefs" lie about the Sun being a hot gas (plasma).Try to phrase your fables and claims appropriately.....
30 August 2018 dad: "fable of abiogenesis", laws of physics being different in the past delusions.The fable of abiogenesis involves what things were like long long long ago on earth. Your use of present forces and nature to model what it was like (and omission of God and creation) tells us what you believe, nothing else.
No. Once the light gets here it is here. It operates the way it has to here. It tells us what it is like here.... a lie about the testing of the fine structure constant being circular
The test is to see if there is a difference of spectra from distant stars and galaxies from local spectra.
"based on certain beliefs" lie about the Sun being a hot gas (plasma).
Sun.
Point out to us something in your link that shows classification of stars is anything but arbitrary.30 August 2018 dad: An "arbitrary classification...faith" of stars lie.
Stellar classification.
Prove it.Nuclear fusion powers stars such as the Sun in science.
7 September 2017 dad: A "It tells us what it is like here" delusion.No. Once the light gets here it is here. It operates the way it has to here. It tells us what it is like here.
7 September 2018 dad: A "riddled with beliefs" lie about the formation and working of the Sun.What you think abot the origins of the sun and how it works is riddled with beliefs......
7 September 2018 dad: A "Prove it" lie when I linked to the Wikipedia Sun article that he quotes from.Prove it.
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Total baloney and bad religion
It is calculated that the Sun will become sufficiently large to engulf the current orbits of Mercury and Venus, and render Earth uninhabitable. After this, it will shed its outer layers and become a dense type of cooling star known as a white dwarf, which no longer produces energy by fusion, but still glows and gives off heat from its previous fusion.
The Sun is roughly middle-aged; it has not changed dramatically for more than four billion[a] years, and will remain fairly stable for more than another five billion years. It currently fuses about 600 million tons of hydrogen into helium every second, converting 4 million tons of matter into energy every second as a result. This energy, which can take between 10,000 and 170,000 years to escape from its core, is the source of the Sun's light and heat. In about 5 billion years, when hydrogen fusion in its core has diminished to the point at which the Sun is no longer in hydrostatic equilibrium, the core of the Sun will experience a marked increase in density and temperature while its outer layers expand to eventually become a red giant.
Got that right! HERE!We measure the light from stars and galaxies here.
It tells us absolutely nothing about what time is like there! That means you have no possible way to determine distances to stars.That light has travelled to us from those stars and galaxies. This tells us about the light that was emit
No you do not. You look at all light HERE. Only here. Always here. Never anywhere else. You measure here. The light from anywhere else is only seen here. The rules of what spectra mean are understood from only here and what light means/does/behaves here.We compare the spectra of this light emitted from far away stars and galaxies to light emitted here on Earth. The differences give us any change in the fine structure constant.
Sorry if you actually think you KNOW how the sun and it's interior and past work/worked. No way.7 September 2018 dad: A "riddled with beliefs" lie about the formation and working of the Sun.
Nebula hypothesis!
Sun!
- The Sun has "not changed dramatically for more than four billion years" because the Earth has had life for up to 4 billion years
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False.[*]Light from that fusion eventually escapes from the Sun as anyone with eyes can see!
The fusion produces gamma rays. These are absorbed by plasma and reemitted. This scatters the light and makes a long zigzag path to the solar surface. Thus "between 10,000 and 170,000 years to escape from its core".
Naturally gas expands when heated and we expect this in the exterior of the sun. Nothing at all to do with your godless fable.Children know that heating a gas makes it expand.
False prophesy! Really.This is analogous to what will happen in the future. When the Sun starts to run out of hydrogen to burn, it will cool and collapse because of a little thing called gravity. That will allow other, hotter fusion mechanisms to begin and dominate. The Sun will expand and become a red giant.
In your religion maybe. That is a total fabrication and not based on knowledge or fact.Sun
- The red giant phase is temporary.
Looks like we have:
A growing list of items of unaddressed ignorance, fantasy and some lies ("Glow surrounds Solar System (fishbowl boundary?)")
It interprets data using certain criteria. The results are beliefs..added to beliefs..added to beliefs...etc.
Beliefs and rituals make it religion.15 August 2018 dad: Repeats his science is religion ("religiously to it's beliefs") lie.
What makes up the FSC is well known and you were told what that was. Things like 'C'. To assume these things are the same in the far universe demands evidence which you lack.20 August 2018 dad: "Circular nonsense" lie about the search for variation in the fine structure constant.
Glib little statement of faith changes nothing.
If you have some tests of the FSC that apply to deep space do post them. Until then, I guess keep pretending you are refuting my posts!
? You think reciting ones does make it true then??
When you try to apply them to the unknown reaches of creation, they lose significance.24 August 2018 dad: A delusion that chemistry and physics are is religious beliefs!
Prove the inside of the sun is like that.
Claiming they were the same as now or that they were not as a science claim requires real evidence. You have none.
And seen here! Always here. Only here.7 September 2017 dad: A "It tells us what it is like here" delusion (it is light emitted from stars!).
You thought the article proved something? Ha.7 September 2018 dad: A "Prove it" lie when I linked to the Wikipedia Sun article that he quotes from.
Rather than calling it NOT baloney you need to defend it.
No thanks. Some of us realized long ago your dated little spam posts are empty of content, and merely an attempted show of intellectualism.
- Your opinion. ...
- 24 September 2018 dad: Repeats abysmal ignorance about what science is.
No. You did not. You posted off target spam nonsense.24 September 2018 dad: A lying "If you have some tests of the FSC that apply to deep space do post them" question when I posted them.
Looking at what the FSC is based on, it is circular and absolutely not applicable except by faith to deep space. Go ahead, demonstrate otherwise. I double dare you.
4 October 2018 dad: A "Your opinion of what origin sciences are" lie when evolution is science and abiogenesis is science.Your opinion of what origin sciences are is just that, your opinion.
4 October 2018 dad: Multiple "posted off target spam nonsense" lies.You posted off target spam nonsense.
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