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GK Chesterton on Protestant Logic

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There is a great deal of myth that surrounds the inquistion created and fabricated by the Church's enemies during the Reformation.

Much of it has been debunked and exposed as fraud, exagerration, and fabrication.

The BBC, about 10 years ago, created a documnetary doing just this.

In fact, when the Spanish Inquisition was critically and objectively examined, it was found that most of what we have been led to believe through popularist history was ctually false.

In fact, what they discovered was the Spanish Inquisition was ahead of its time in the ways of judicially protecting human rights, care of prisonors, fairness of treatement and rendering justice.

In fact, the Spanish Inquisition's jails were a model for others to follow for many years to come. They were clean, offered clean water, decent food, clothing and bedding, and a systemtatic and effective hearing process with legal representation for the accused.

In fact, people caught in the secular system were in danger of dying before ever reached trial, which might be never, from bad food and water, disease, etc.

In fact, many would try to force their case to be transferred to the inquisitional system because they were assured of a fair trial in addition to the benefits above. They would get out of the death trap of the secular system.

In addition to all this, the tales of execution, burning at the stake and torture are fabrications and/or exagerations.

The truth is, the protestant inquistions killed and brutally tortured 100 to 1000 times more than all of the Catholic inquisitions put together.

So, if the Spanish Inquisition is holding you back, then there is no real reason for it to hold you back any longer.


The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition



"The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition," a 1994 BBC/A&E production, .........

The Inquisition had a secular character, although the crime was heresy. Inquisitors did not have to be clerics, but they did have to be lawyers. The investigation was rule-based and carefully kept in check. And most significantly, historians have declared fraudulent a supposed Inquisition document claiming the genocide of millions of heretics.


What is documented is that 3000 to 5000 people died during the Inquisition's 350 year history. Also documented are the "Acts of Faith," public sentencings of heretics in town squares. But the grand myth of thought control by sinister fiends has been debunked by the archival evidence. The inquisitors enjoyed a powerful position in the towns, but it was one constantly jostled by other power brokers. In the outlying areas, they were understaffed - in those days it was nearly impossible for 1 or 2 inquisitors to cover the thousand-mile territory allotted to each team. In the outlying areas no one cared and no one spoke to them. As the program documents, the 3,000 to 5,000 documented executions of the Inquisition pale in comparison to the 150,000 documented witch burnings elsewhere in Europe over the same centuries.

http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodicals/Dossier/1112-96/article4.html

And that's just the witch burnings in protestant areas . . . . that is only the beginning . . . .
 
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Sorry, I can't read posts done up in all bold red. . . . much too hard on the eyes . . . nothing there that I can see .. .
 
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If God can inpsire an ASS to give His word to the prophet Balam, and Saul, His enemy, to prophecy like the prophets, then He can inspire anyone,

Inspiration has nothing to do with pecaability, ie sinfulness.

Peter was inspired to write scripture. He also sinned when he acted contrary to Church teaching and quit eatng and living like the gentiles when the judiazing jews came to where he was. Peter acted the part of the hypocrit.

That didn't stop God from inspiriting him to right scripture.

The point is, the Papacy is not a person, it is an office, and as with other offices, its validity and power and authority does not depend on the personal sinlessness of the one who occupies it.

If a very sinful person occupies the office of the president, even if he is a traitor, that does not invalidate the office of the presidency or its power and authority.

So the authority and power of the office continues regardless of the worthiness of the one occupying it.
 
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Very well done Trento!
 
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Ignoring facts in evidene does not make one's claims credible . . . . . .
 
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Not much of a rebuttal there either . . .
 
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not much of a rebuttal there either . . . just unsupported claims . . . .
 
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Polemical argument . . not much of a rebuttal . . still waiting for something of substance . . . .
 
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Maybe you should seek with an open heart and mind.
I wouldn't have anyone do anything...I present facts the Holy Spirit changes hearts and minds. I defend the truth and expose falsehoods!

I haven't seen much in the way of facts, just mostly unsupported, or poorly supported claims in face of the evidence to the contrary . . . .
 
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just more polemics, nothing much of a rebuttal of substance at all . . . . .
 
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Yep those books were already in use by the time of those councils, so it seems rather clear that the councils did more than simply give their stamp of approval to books "already in use". . . . .
 
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No evidence, just polemics and unsubstantianted claims . . . .
 
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That is not my logic.

You must fabricate arguments for me that you can defeat because you have no response to the arguments I actually make!


Yeah, I noticed that too . . . those are called "strawman" and we sure see a lot of those in response to our well thought out logical and resaoned arguments.

Just part of the terrain I guess.


And he is claiming it is no small sin (that's what transgression means for those who oppose Catholicism)if they disobey him.

We sin when we disobey God appointed authority, so this obviously means he is God's appointed authority we are to obey, sitting in Peter's chair.
 
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