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Giving Some Thought to Amnesty

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President Reagan agreed to an illegal alien amnesty in exchange for tougher laws on immigration and border control. It was not anticipated that successive administrations would actively or negligently fail to enforce these laws. That an amnesty was given with no penalty perhaps contributed to the continuing flood of immigrants to the US, escalating under the Biden administration.

At present the deportation of criminal aliens is supported by most. However, after the number of egregious criminals has been significantly reduced, consideration will have to be given to those illegal aliens who have resided here for as much as forty years and have been otherwise law abiding and tax paying residents. This opens the subject of the spectrum of penalties for law breaking.

Illegal aliens are by definition law breakers. Our legal system can provide a spectrum of penalties from community service to the death penalty. For people who exceed the speed limit, usually a fine is imposed. The idea of a financial penalty may be an appropriate response for those illegal aliens who have been otherwise law abiding. The assigning of a $15,000 fine for each illegal alien might provide an incentive to others to not enter illegally.

The use of a financial penalty for law breaking might be the best approach as the blanket amnesty of the Reagan administration seemed to not discourage further law breakers. We want ot be compassionate, yet we still need to maintain a deterrence. This could also be advanced by making provision for temporary work visas with a $10,000 fee. If the cartels were making that much for smuggling people in, it might make a dent in the cartel business model.

An interview was made several years ago of a Texas rancher who loved close to the border. He commented that most of the people that were crossing the border in the past were the type of people you might invite to Sunday dinner. However, he observed that the type of people coming across at the time were not the same type of people. The implication was that there had been a sharp increase in the criminal element.

Our national policy should be to rid ourselves of criminals and show compassion for those who we would not mind to have over for Sunday dinner.