• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Getting laughed at for being Christian

MorkandMindy

Andrew Yang's Forward Party
Site Supporter
Dec 16, 2006
7,401
785
New Mexico
✟265,487.00
Country
United States
Faith
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Well I read on the Internet that one problem we have these days is with cars and telephones and facebook we don't have to put up with the irritating people around us and that allows us to fail to develop our people skills.

I have to sympathise because it is very painful, but I don't think this is suffering that kills, rather I'm hoping it is something we all grow from (though it certainly doesn't seem so at the time).
 
Upvote 0

MorkandMindy

Andrew Yang's Forward Party
Site Supporter
Dec 16, 2006
7,401
785
New Mexico
✟265,487.00
Country
United States
Faith
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
I'm really clutching at straws here but I'm wondering if the attack on Christianity may have been produced by the US election that had only just ended with the results the previous day.



Looking at it from a non-Christian's perspective we have another Christian-backed candidate who appears to be even keener on starting wars than G W Bush was, and so you could ask if that level of human suffering doesn't have a higher priority than the politeness that you don't challenge anyone's religious beliefs.



I accept that rule when I welcome Jehovah's Witnesses. They are acting from kindness because it is their belief that I will roast forever in a nasty place if I don't hold their beliefs and so they offer me the opportunity to escape eternal punishment. So I feel that over rides the rule that a person's personal religious beliefs should be unquestioned.



Equally it could be said that attacking Christianity is the lessor of two evils when the alternative is getting hundreds of thousands of people in yet another country killed or maimed.


But I really don't approve of the way they appear to have handled it; politeness and truth should not be incompatible.
 
Upvote 0

Gadarene

-______-
Apr 16, 2012
11,461
2,507
London
✟90,247.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
UK-Labour

Which attack on Christianity? The OP's experience?
 
Upvote 0

MorkandMindy

Andrew Yang's Forward Party
Site Supporter
Dec 16, 2006
7,401
785
New Mexico
✟265,487.00
Country
United States
Faith
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Which attack on Christianity? The OP's experience?


Yes, the OP's experience.

What I'm suggesting is the attack was not designed for the OP but might be a reaction mainly to the US elections which had just finished.

My reasoning is that in the main over here a person's religion is their own private business.


But


in the US the Bible-believing Christians now total about 30% of the number of voters and religious adherence is a very public affair with religious leaders invariably backing the worst candidate.

With 30% of the vote gone to the top war-monger that leaves 70% of which 50% has to go to the sane guy, and that really isn't easy with the abysmal levels of school education over there.
 
Upvote 0

Robban

-----------
Site Supporter
Dec 27, 2009
11,660
3,185
✟827,154.00
Country
Sweden
Gender
Male
Faith
Judaism
Marital Status
Divorced

It,s about pushing the right button.
In the OP,s example, they pushed the wrong button.
This applies to much, religion, politics and even simple everyday matters.

Re suffering that kills.
Psalms chapter 120 rebukes slanderers, it describes how the deadly effect of slander reaches even further than weapons.
 
Upvote 0

Gadarene

-______-
Apr 16, 2012
11,461
2,507
London
✟90,247.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
UK-Labour

That's a tad ridiculous. While there is certainly some level of US-Christianity meddling over here, most Christians I've encountered here are nowhere near that bad, and that sure doesn't justify having a go at someone completely unconnected purely because they are Christian. That is little better than prejudice.
 
Upvote 0

MorkandMindy

Andrew Yang's Forward Party
Site Supporter
Dec 16, 2006
7,401
785
New Mexico
✟265,487.00
Country
United States
Faith
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
I know that US fundamentalist Christianity is on the opposite side of the fence from British Christianity.

When I mentioned to British Christians that the main supporters of G W Bush and his wars and gun owners are the Evangelical Alliance etc. they were surprised.

It's just that coming immediately after the US elections I thought there might be a connection and not everyone is fully aware how very deep the divisions in Christianity actually go.
 
Upvote 0

Gadarene

-______-
Apr 16, 2012
11,461
2,507
London
✟90,247.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
UK-Labour

Right, so if they're unaware of the connection (which they have no reason to be, just like I'm not responsible for or required to be aware of every prat move made by every atheist ever) then it just makes the assault on their beliefs "because some US Christians are crap" even more unexpected and egregious.

Also - anyone with half a lick of common sense would have seen where that election was going easily up to a week and a half ahead of the vote. To then go and chew out a Christian an ocean away after WINNING against the evangelical-dominant side? Does not compute.
 
Upvote 0

MorkandMindy

Andrew Yang's Forward Party
Site Supporter
Dec 16, 2006
7,401
785
New Mexico
✟265,487.00
Country
United States
Faith
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
I know it is a possibility because my mother attempted to sell TEARCRAFT things in her local church up in North and the leading ladies refused to buy anything because they thought it was the same as TEA in the USA which backed G W Bush and all kinds of nasties.

I'm not saying that is the reason, only that it could explain why they appeared to attack Miser in person and possibly were thinking more about something else because I do find it a bit hard to believe that Miser on her own would normally produce that kind of response.


But feel free to continue to say 'its a tad ridiculous' because I won't be back.
 
Upvote 0