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Getting Back To Nature

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Getting Back to Nature

Have you ever seen an upside-down tree? You know, with the roots up in the air and the branches and leaves under the ground? Probably not.

Have you ever seen a two-headed bird? Or a dog with two tails? If you have...it would be called a “freak of nature”.A “freak of nature” is something that is contrary to God’s original plan. The way that things would be if mankind - with its’ fallen nature of sin - had not interfered and messed things up.

That is basically why homosexuality is an abomination (Leviticus 20:13). Because it is against nature. It is a perversion of God’s original plan and His intention for the human race. “Male and female created He them.” And then God commanded them to “be fruitful and multiply.” (Gen. 1: 27, 28)

Obviously two men or two women in their perverted and unclean sexual activities can not procreate. In such an unnatural relationship they have to depend on artificial and surrogate means to have children to raise. Even then, the children are in an awful situation where they can’t benefit from the Godly union of a man and woman, where the male and female characteristics are present to nurture them in a Godly and balanced way.

Some would like to defend homosexuality and lesbians by saying that it is “not a choice, they were born that way.” Well, whether they were born that way or not, satan still interfered with natures’ original process and perverted the outcome (as he did in the garden of Eden). Satan either messes with genetics before birth or causes abuse and trauma, so that these perversions enter a person at some point in their life.

You were also born with a sin nature (Psalms 51:5), but you still must repent and receive Christ as your Lord and Savior to be forgiven and set free.

Provision has been made by the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ...to “right all wrongs,” to restore to the original pattern, to transform all perversions to their proper condition. So you are held accountable to that God-given provision...to be healed, restored and made whole. To either receive it and benefit by it, or reject it and suffer the consequences. That is now your choice!

You see, some people can be born with a certain abnormality, handicap, or disease, but we are certainly looking for a cure for them aren’t we? Because we don’t accept it as “normal”. It is the same with the vile and perverted lifestyle of homosexuality...it is as unclean and deadly as a cancer. Whether you’re born with it or contract it afterwards. And there is a cure...which is Forgiveness, Healing and Restoration in the Name of Jesus Christ - by the Power and Love of God.

Acknowledge your sin AS SIN in the face of Truth and Gods’ Mercy, and He will be there to set you free and make you a productive and Godly person in His kingdom.

Remember Sodom and Gomorrah. It is still “Repent or Perish!” Is this “hate literature”? Absolutely! God hates SIN! (That's why He provided the way for healing and deliverance. His LOVE makes provision for deliverance and wholeness.)
 

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I'm curious, how do you explain all those Christians who love and serve the Lord and their brothers and sisters and are gay? :scratch:
tulc(knows a lot of them) :wave:

Matthew 7:23 "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity."

God only receives worship and service from those who worship in spirit and in Truth; those who are true born-again individuals who honor the Truth set forth in the Bible. Those who are willing to "come to the Light" so that their deeds can be exposed, seen for what they are and dealt with.

You may be able to frolic and play around here, but not in God's true Church...the Body of Christ. In Christ is all things pure and original...true to nature as purposed by God.

All else is an abomination.
 
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Speaking from a personal standpoint I can say that there is nothing more unatural for me than to have heterosexual sex. Simple really.

Obviously, that is because you are in an UNnatural condition....contrary to the precious ways of God. Unfruitful and desolate of fulfilling the first commision of God..."to be fruitful and multiply".
 
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self applied birth control is hardly natural (occurring in the natural world)
however, infanticide happens in nature all the time
so does killing for territory and sex for pleasure not procreation (though it is more rare)
 
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I think we need to clarify what we are defining as 'Natural'

something you see in Nature?
or natural as defined by the Christian Bible?

We're obviously seeing here how "reprobate minds" work. Bereft of life and truth and decency. Seared consciences and hearts grown over with nettles and thorns. A definate sign of the times...judgment is on the horizon!

Hailstones and fire are in the forecast!
 
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We're obviously seeing here how "reprobate minds" work. Bereft of life and truth and decency. Seared consciences and hearts grown over with nettles and thorns. A definate sign of the times...judgment is on the horizon!

Hailstones and fire are in the forecast!

barring the hysteria in this post...
so... you're definition of natural is from the christian bible?
Does this include the mistakes/contradictions between what we do see in the natural world and the Bible?
 
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barring the hysteria in this post...
so... you're definition of natural is from the christian bible?
Does this include the mistakes/contradictions between what we do see in the natural world and the Bible?

ALL things will be restored. (Romans 8:21) Even individuals bound by gay filth can be restored to "normal", but if they choose to resist God's Spirit...they will be destoyed with the rest of the wicked. 2 Thess. 1:7,8
 
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ALL things will be restored. (Romans 8:21) Even individuals bound by gay filth can be restored to "normal", but if they choose to resist God's Spirit...they will be destoyed with the rest of the wicked. 2 Thess. 1:7,8

Restored to what?
Restored to what the Bible says? or to what is Natural?
I really don't think you can use the word nature and natural and exclude things we see occurring in the natural world.
Please try to use another descriptor
 
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Restored to what?
Restored to what the Bible says? or to what is Natural?
I really don't think you can use the word nature and natural and exclude things we see occurring in the natural world.
Please try to use another descriptor

I don't think so. The homosexual community has already defiled a perfectly good and decent word "gay", I'll keep God's version of "nature" and "normal" as He has defined them from the beginning. I don't expect 'reprobate minds' to really grasp anything or accept the obvious. They are willingly ignorant and have chosen the way of destuction.
 
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Matthew 7:23 "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity."

God only receives worship and service from those who worship in spirit and in Truth; those who are true born-again individuals who honor the Truth set forth in the Bible. Those who are willing to "come to the Light" so that their deeds can be exposed, seen for what they are and dealt with.

You may be able to frolic and play around here, but not in God's true Church...the Body of Christ. In Christ is all things pure and original...true to nature as purposed by God.

All else is an abomination.

Hmmm It's interesting you picked Matthew 7, let's get some context:
Matthew 7

1Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
29For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
I don't know dude, that doesn't seem to back how you used it. :sorry:
tulc(can honestly say he has never frolicked any where that he's aware of) ;)
 
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Thirdday,

I like your message and agree with your beliefs, and I am trying to work here to the same end but I don't think the fire and brimstone preaching is going to get through to them. It is going to push them away.

Just some friendly advice.
 
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