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Genetics and the Evolution of the Human Brian

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What is the connection to this gene to actual increase in brain size. Meaning how does the correlation of larger space equate to larger brain?

I would imagine this is regarded as just another piece of evidence. If the human brain has evolved in the manner in which evolutionary theory predicts that it would have, then we should be able to find evidence that supports this. The mechanism for permitting the possibility of a bigger cranial cavity would be one such piece of supporting evidence. This is not to suggest that a bigger brain, in and of itself, is the sole determinant of increased human intelligence, but it appears to be one ingredient.
 
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When did this "prediction" of how the human brain should have evolved and that it evolved in this manner?
 
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Why would the skull cavity get larger just because the jaw gets smaller, especially if it now is larger in relation to the smaller jaw? And if the skull did get larger it would more likely happen because of the pressure of an enlarging brain, not an expanding skull. But then why would the brain get larger? Certainly not from more mental activity, which it would not be able to accomplish due to the limitations of it's size. But if it could accomplish greater mental activity why would it need to expand in size? That would require restructuring the whole body of the critter to carry around this new oversized head.
 
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You seem to be hung up on a form of Lamarckian thinking. Evolutionary theory does not posit that change occurs because the organism 'needs it to'.

There is a very good explanation on the preceding page of how the mutations would have occurred that subsequently paved the way for a larger skull.
 
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Because the effects of mutations in brain related genes are always deleterious.

"always"?
Evidence?

Natural Selection is nothing more then an assumption:

lol, wut?

How is it an assumption that some organisms die before reproducing and others don't?
How is it an assumption that those that reproduce spread their genes and the others don't?

Mutations are a failure of DNA repair:

So?

I'm not expecting one.

You couldn't get one if you rule out the honest answers.


I have just seen a thread on here which clearly explains how these measurements work. Misrepresentation of the facts is not going to help your case.

If your goal is to swing us over to your camp, then such dishonest misrepresentations is really not the way to do it.

I'm not expecting one, that much is sure.

Off course you don't. You explicitly set the whole thing up to rule out the possibility of one....
 
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I'm not sure what your question means - I'm assuming there are a few words missing ?
You said it was a prediction that the brain would be larger and that the prediction included in what manner it would evolve. Understand my question now?
 
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You said it was a prediction that the brain would be larger and that the prediction included in what manner it would evolve. Understand my question now?

Somewhat. The "when" threw me. Are you asking when such a prediction was made, or when the enlargement of the human skull occurred?
 
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When did this "prediction" of how the human brain should have evolved and that it evolved in this manner?

I assume you're asking when said prediction was made. Probably some time after the discovery of the Taung Child which showed that bipedalism evolved before a big brain. Australopithecines would have more basal characteristics like large jaw muscles. The MHY16 mutation caused those jaw muscles to be smaller and attach lower on the cranium thereby allowing the cranium to grow lager.
 
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Apparently if we accept evolution we just evolved a mere few thousand years ago, since that is where our recorded history starts. The leap forward in knowledge in just the last 6,000 thousand years is astonishing, isn't it? The problem is you have yet to show a link to those primates, except we must always assume a non-existent species that split into what we observe - at every single branching of the tree.



I thought evolutionist's didn't like to go on faith?
 
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