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gay christains?

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Buzz Dixon

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Of course it's possible to be gay and be a Christian. Gay does not mean what one does, it means one's sexual orientation.

Many gay activists today say that people should be allowed to act out on their impulses, and that there should be no morality re sexual practices (and that is what they're saying, once you wade through the smokescreens). Legally, of course, they have the right to champion this POV. Legally Christians have the right -- and morally the duty -- to urge people not to act on impulses that will cause them to sin and fall.

I have numerous friends who are recovering alcoholics. They will never be "cured" in that they will always face a craving for alcohol, but they can -- with God's help and the support of other recovering alcoholics -- avoid falling to temptation.

Nothing stops a gay person from having friends and companions who share his/her interests. The Christian life requires us to avoid sinful behavior. The orientation is not the problem, the actions are.

We are all sinners in some fashion, and those who think they aren't are guilty of the sin of hubris.
 
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There are lots of gay Christians. What they can or can't do is something about which different churches will be arguing for some time... But it doesn't really matter. Lots of people fall short. In fact, all of them. Doesn't matter. God loves us anyway.

If you had to act a certain way to be saved, what point would the whole Jesus thing have? We are saved through faith, not works.
 
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Theresa said:
In my opinion, as to the OP, yes it is possible to be gay and Christian. The differences in the responses will lie in whether or not homosexual activity is moral or immoral. But yes, it is possible to commit moral or immoral actions and still be Christian.

That's pretty much what I was trying to say. Some people will do things that are wrong. It matters, but it doesn't make them not Christian, or send them to Hell.
 
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tabbygirl said:
hi, is it possible for someone to be gay and a christain? why i ask is that my brother (I love him deeply) just told me in confidense that he is gay. I dont know what to do. I feel like I need to tell the preacher because he needs to be saved. My brother told me that he is a christain but I dont know.

Tabitha
Of course it is possible :) If you google "gay Christians," you can find many sites and organisations that are run by gay Christians. You may find some junk in there too, however.
 
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tabbygirl said:


hi, is it possible for someone to be gay and a christain? why i ask is that my brother (I love him deeply) just told me in confidense that he is gay. I dont know what to do. I feel like I need to tell the preacher because he needs to be saved. My brother told me that he is a christain but I dont know.

Tabitha


save your brother from what exactly?



Your brother trusted you enough to share something incredibly private and considering the hostility many Christians express towards gays and lesbians potentially dangers to his well being. You would do well to respect your brother enough to speak to him about your feelings and listen to him about his and then educate yourself about just what it means to be a gay man in this society. If you have specific questions about what this means feel free to PM me.
 
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Another opinion on the topic.
If a non-Christian can give advice and opinons on this issue surely a Christian should be allowed to also

Can practicing homosexuals be saved?

If a by "practicing homosexual" is meant a person who is openly approving of homosexuality and is engaged in it, can this person be saved? Yes and no. Yes because any sinner has the potential of becoming saved. On the other hand, if the person is professing to be a Christian yet is unrepentantly practicing homosexuality, then it would appear that he would not be saved. 1 John 2:4 says, "The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." So, a homosexual can be saved, but once saved, the Spirit of God will move that person to repent of the sin of homosexuality. If a person continues to unrepentantly practice homosexuality, promoting it, etc., then that person would not be demonstrating evidence of regeneration.
But then again, a person could become saved, still fall into homosexuality, be convicted by the Spirit of the sin, all the while be seeking to break free from it. So technically, in this last sense, he could be saved and be a homosexual -- not as a life style, but as in struggling against his sin which sometimes can get the best of him. It would be like a drug addict becoming a Christian and still being hooked on drugs. He would struggle against and still have the desire to participate in it.
I would say that a person who has professed Christ and is struggling against sin is demonstrating evidence of regeneration. Remember, many people who become Christians still struggle with many of their old sins. Even Paul struggled, "For the good that I wish, I do not do; but I practice the very evil that I do not wish," (Rom. 7:19). We are not perfect and we must remember to be gracious to others, especially when they are stuck in an old sin, want to repent of it, and are trying to have victory over it. This is when grace is need, not law. But, of course, we are never to encourage or excuse a person's sin. We must pray for them to attain full victory.
Now, some Christians will state that once you become saved, you should automatically have victory over all your sins. This is an unfortunate burden they place on many Christians because "perfection" becomes the standard for measuring whether or not they are Christians. This can cause people to doubt their salvation. While it is true that we have victory in many areas when we become saved, it is also true that we still struggle with many of our old sins. Of course, it is never okay for us to go ahead and sin (Rom. 6:1-2). We must always struggle for holiness. But the fact is, like Paul, we sometimes do the things we don't want to do and don't do what we should. It is our struggle against sin that demonstrates that we are regenerate since we are seeking to be holy as God is holy (1 Pet. 1:16).
Finally, it is no dead people who struggle for life. Only those who are alive struggle. Likewise, the dead in sin, the unregenerate do not struggle against their sins. Christians do.

http://www.carm.org/questions/sex_homo.htm
 
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This directly answers the OP

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I know the Bible says it's a sin, but it also says that the only unforgivable sin is not accepting Jesus. If a gay person accepts Jesus but does not change his lifestyle, can he go to heaven? I have a cousin who's gay.

-Lucy



You've asked a very important question--and a very hard one.

And you are exactly right: there is only one sin that is unforgivable. That is the sin of not believing and not receiving Jesus Christ into your life.

A gay or homosexual person can accept Christ, just as an alcoholic, a drug addict, or a mass-murderer can accept Christ. Jesus' offer of salvation is open to everyone.

Your question is whether someone can accept Christ, not change his lifestyle, and still go to heaven. The Bible teaches that if someone has truly accepted Christ into his life, nothing can keep him out of heaven. In John 10:28, Christ says of Christians,

"I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of My hand."

So, Lucy the real question, I believe, is whether your cousin had a life-changing experience with Christ. Jesus said in Luke,

"Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord' and do not do what I say?"

Someone once put it this way:

"No Jesus, no change. Know Jesus, know change."

Is your cousin trying to overcome his homosexuality? If he is, that's a good sign that Christ is working in his life.


God is the only one who truly knows our hearts. He's the only one who truly knows your cousin's heart. But if Christ has become the Lord of your cousin's life, then the Holy Spirit will begin to deal with the sin of homosexuality in his life. I would encourage you to pray daily for your cousin. And I'd encourage you to tell your cousin you are praying for him. God may use you in his life. Thanks for being there and thanks for caring for him.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-dml/dml-y023.html
 
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