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Talcos Stormweaver

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Did the pre-adamic animals evolve or were they created?

Although I do not speak for all, I believe I have an answer: both

Creation does not rule out evolution. The suggestion you make is that one can not be created and evolve. However, I am one to suggest that, in any case, evolution can serve as a method by which creation does form.

Although, of course, the existance of Adam as is... is still questionable.
 
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I believe they were created.

The "theory of evolution", which I do not hold to, requires millions of years of time in order to exist.

But millions of years of time do not need evolution in oder to exist.

In other word, evolution is dependent on time, but time is not dependent on evolution.
 
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Talcos Stormweaver said:
Did the pre-adamic animals evolve or were they created?

Although I do not speak for all, I believe I have an answer: both

Creation does not rule out evolution. The suggestion you make is that one can not be created and evolve. However, I am one to suggest that, in any case, evolution can serve as a method by which creation does form.

Although, of course, the existance of Adam as is... is still questionable.

The biblical account of creation most certainly does rule out evolutionism. The account presented in Genesis show us that God created the animals after their own kind with out evolutionism. Genesis continues with the making of Adam from the dust then Eve from his side...which certainly isn't evolutionism.
 
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Bushido216 said:
Evolution as an explanation of the diversity of species requires billions of years. Evolution as an accumulation of small changes leading to speciation requires no time.

I would have to agree with the second part of that statement. Micro-evolution happened after the animalls were released off of the ark to produce the species we know of today.
Now as to the billions of years, we all know that evolutionism due to mutations, especially on the grand level that the evolutionist claim occured is impossible.
 
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Did the pre-adamic animals evolve or were they created?

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There are no animals that predate Adam by more tha, a day or two, so the question means nothing. There is not gap. All things are created by God just exactly the way it is Written in The Bible.
 
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Curt said:
2 Tim 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Pet 1:20
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2 Sam 14:14
14 For we must needs die, and are as water spilt on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again; neither doth God respect any person: yet doth he devise means, that his banished be not expelled from him.
Job 37:24
24 Men do therefore fear him: he respecteth not any that are wise of heart.

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Did the pre-adamic animals evolve or were they created?

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There are no animals that predate Adam by more tha, a day or two, so the question means nothing. There is not gap. All things are created by God just exactly the way it is Written in The Bible.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
 
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Ark-Guy said:
I would have to agree with the second part of that statement. Micro-evolution happened after the animalls were released off of the ark to produce the species we know of today.
Now as to the billions of years, we all know that evolutionism due to mutations, especially on the grand level that the evolutionist claim occured is impossible.
This is an example of how you don't read posts. I never said that one or the other actually happened, I just said that those would be the requirements. For instance, the requirement for World Destruction is 1000 nukes. Does that mean that World Destruction has occured? No.

Secondly, please tell me why it is impossible for billions of years to have already passed? I'm curious.
 
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Bushido216 said:
This is an example of how you don't read posts. I never said that one or the other actually happened, I just said that those would be the requirements. For instance, the requirement for World Destruction is 1000 nukes. Does that mean that World Destruction has occured? No.

Secondly, please tell me why it is impossible for billions of years to have already passed? I'm curious.

I'm sure it would have required far more than a few billion mutations to create a man from a puddle of mud.

You do the math.
 
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Ark-Guy said:
I'm sure it would have required far more than a few billion mutations to create a man from a puddle of mud.

You do the math.
BTW, you have, once again, not read my post fully. Is English your first language? I'm beginning to suspect that it's not.
 
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Was that really necessary?

It sure isn't a very convincing argument...
Ark Guy has been banned from these forums at least 2 times in the past few months and keeps coming back. Most here are just a little frustrated to see him back (with the same tired arguments and questions that have been addressed to him in the past).

He was banned for his attitude and treatment of other posters. It's too bad he does't respect the posters and moderators enough to leave when asked and to not come back.

Give it time, he will begin to question other Christians faith, attack when he is asked to actually back up his statements, and repeat, repeat, and repeat the same argument over and over even when he has been show the errors of his logic.

Search for threads by ArkGuy or Durango to get the jist.
 
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