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Galen Strawson's argument for why physical reality is experiential
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<blockquote data-quote="SelfSim" data-source="post: 74787488" data-attributes="member: 354922"><p>.. yet what is it that generates this <em>clarity</em>? Its our own mind doing what it normally does (.. the claim of which, can be shown to generate abundant objectively tested evidence sourced from the meanings we assign to the words we use when communicating).</p><p> </p><p>This is kind of like the spot on the cheek of one's own face .. the individual can't see it, (perhaps except where one uses a mirror), but everyone else can.</p><p>We have a massive blind spot when it comes to recognising (or perceiving) the role our minds are continually playing <em><u>in everything</u></em> we perceive! Why is that?</p><p></p><p>Strawson certainly can't see it either. The 'experiential-ness' of the nature he perceives, is his own mind doing the experiencing. He is still stuck with the idea that there is an 'external' physical reality. All he's done is transfer his own mind's capability of experience and conferred it onto his believed-in 'external' physical reality.</p><p></p><p>.. and what is it that decides what is 'true' or not? Again, it is his mind. 'Truth' is assignable .. for example, in science, 'truth' is no more than the last best tested theory. In deistic religions its what God says. In everyday life, its what I <em>believe</em> to be true. In all three of those cases, the mind is playing a very active role and Strawson hasn't excluded the role his own mind has played in distinguishing between his <em>own</em> mind's experiences and what a rock is actually 'doing'.</p><p></p><p>He <em>believes in</em> his own model .. rather than the alternative of actually going to the effort of <em>testing</em> it out (using the scientific method).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SelfSim, post: 74787488, member: 354922"] .. yet what is it that generates this [I]clarity[/I]? Its our own mind doing what it normally does (.. the claim of which, can be shown to generate abundant objectively tested evidence sourced from the meanings we assign to the words we use when communicating). This is kind of like the spot on the cheek of one's own face .. the individual can't see it, (perhaps except where one uses a mirror), but everyone else can. We have a massive blind spot when it comes to recognising (or perceiving) the role our minds are continually playing [I][U]in everything[/U][/I] we perceive! Why is that? Strawson certainly can't see it either. The 'experiential-ness' of the nature he perceives, is his own mind doing the experiencing. He is still stuck with the idea that there is an 'external' physical reality. All he's done is transfer his own mind's capability of experience and conferred it onto his believed-in 'external' physical reality. .. and what is it that decides what is 'true' or not? Again, it is his mind. 'Truth' is assignable .. for example, in science, 'truth' is no more than the last best tested theory. In deistic religions its what God says. In everyday life, its what I [I]believe[/I] to be true. In all three of those cases, the mind is playing a very active role and Strawson hasn't excluded the role his own mind has played in distinguishing between his [I]own[/I] mind's experiences and what a rock is actually 'doing'. He [I]believes in[/I] his own model .. rather than the alternative of actually going to the effort of [I]testing[/I] it out (using the scientific method). [/QUOTE]
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