From Classical Christianity to Quantum Physics

[paul becke]

Just read a great article by Peter Day in the journal, La Croix International. I believe it would have spoken to the many drop-out cum hippie types of the sixties, who found the spirituality of the eastern religions a terrific turn-on, although, while many would presumably have dropped away, that same spirituality would, and I believe did, ultimately have the effect of turning them back to Christianity, the 'brand leader'.

In his fascinating essay on comparative religion, The Perennial Philosophy, Aldous Huxley was in no doubt that the Catholic church was the true font of the Christian faith, but, as he put it, unlike the saints such as St Peter Claver, he couldn't countenance deferring to its clericalist ethos.

Incidentally, I found that merely reading on the subject of quantum physics via quotes by its pioneers in Wikipedia and Wikiquotes, was sufficient to get quite clear a picture of the paradoxes that seem to proliferate the further the physicists penetrate the nature of matter and our universe. What tickles me to bits is that atheists have been obliged to circumvent the papable truth that paradoxes are repugnant to reason and logic, and hence 'counter-rational', not 'counter-intuitive', yet the same atheist/materialists persist in using this artless artifice, and sawing through the branch they are sitting on, their own thoughts being no more than the meaningless effects of random collisions of atoms. In fact, the paradoxes encountered in physics are used by physicists as staging posts, indeed, spring-boards, to proceed with their investigations using the customary logic they used, when the nature of reality brought them to discover the paradoxes.

Had the corporations not already been so powerful, the discovery of quantum mechanics would have seen them laughed at and ridiculed out of existence in the scientific world, as it transparently should have.

From classical Christianity to quantum Christianity

 

[StevenMerten]

Hello Paul,
So good to hear from you again!

Did you read my response to the thread
Stephen Hawking: Great scientist, lousy theologian

You are going to love it. It displays the deception of the 'Cosmologist' who throw out the very science they covet, to attack the Catholic Church with Cave Man 'science', and irrational logic.

Albert Einstein once stated, "I would like to think that the moon was there, even when I wasn't looking at it!" Einstein was referring to 'The Observer Effect'. In the 'double-slit' experiment, it is proven that, at the Quantum level, electrons, protons and neutrons, are in a state of chaos, and only organize into near perfect order, to form immense objects, when, of all things, man is looking at them. So, Stephen Hawking, How did electrons 'evolve', to know when man is looking at them, and thus change their course? It is scientifically proven, and it is accepted by the whole scientific world, that they do so. Electrons even know when man is going to look at them in the future, and thus change their course?

So why didn't Stephen Hawking discuss the scientifically proven, 'Observer Effect'? Because, the 'Observer Effect', is God waving back at atheist scientists, through their electronic microscopes, and telling them that it is He who Controls every electron, proton and neutron in the Universe, every nano-second of physical time. The 'Observer Effect' proves that God created the universe for the purpose of man (Adam), to see, smell, hear, taste and touch, and as a home for (Adam) man, to live in. If, free-willed, love for God capable, conscious man, is not present in the universe, to observe and participate in the universe, then electrons, protons and neutrons, are not forming immense objects, to form the universe, because there is no purpose for God to do so.

Albert Einstein, and Hawking, along with today's prideful atheist cosmologists, fear the 'Observer Effect' tremendously! Hawking, with his child like, made up, concepts of "'multiverses' and, 'strings and corks', existing 'before the 'Big Bang', (Hawking's meaning, before God created everything)", is hardened of heart, atheist, Stephen Hawking, desperately trying to deceive people away from the overwhelming, great multitude of scientific proofs, of God's Existence as Creator of all that exists.

Please visit:
Scientific Proof That the Universe Does Not Exist without Conscious Man, Adam, to Observe it.​

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

What do you think is the motive of the powerful corporations ? (and others also)?

This was known and published and exposed (their motives) centuries ago, I think,
but I am not aware of how many people care or know this.

 

[paul becke]

Hello Paul,
So good to hear from you again!

Did you read my response to the thread
Stephen Hawking: Great scientist, lousy theologian

You are going to love it. It displays the deception of the 'Cosmologist' who throw out the very science they covet, to attack the Catholic Church with Cave Man 'science', and irrational logic.

Albert Einstein once stated, "I would like to think that the moon was there, even when I wasn't looking at it!" Einstein was referring to 'The Observer Effect'. In the 'double-slit' experiment, it is proven that, at the Quantum level, electrons, protons and neutrons, are in a state of chaos, and only organize into near perfect order, to form immense objects, when, of all things, man is looking at them. So, Stephen Hawking, How did electrons 'evolve', to know when man is looking at them, and thus change their course? It is scientifically proven, and it is accepted by the whole scientific world, that they do so. Electrons even know when man is going to look at them in the future, and thus change their course?

So why didn't Stephen Hawking discuss the scientifically proven, 'Observer Effect'? Because, the 'Observer Effect', is God waving back at atheist scientists, through their electronic microscopes, and telling them that it is He who Controls every electron, proton and neutron in the Universe, every nano-second of physical time. The 'Observer Effect' proves that God created the universe for the purpose of man (Adam), to see, smell, hear, taste and touch, and as a home for (Adam) man, to live in. If, free-willed, love for God capable, conscious man, is not present in the universe, to observe and participate in the universe, then electrons, protons and neutrons, are not forming immense objects, to form the universe, because there is no purpose for God to do so.

Albert Einstein, and Hawking, along with today's prideful atheist cosmologists, fear the 'Observer Effect' tremendously! Hawking, with his child like, made up, concepts of "'multiverses' and, 'strings and corks', existing 'before the 'Big Bang', (Hawking's meaning, before God created everything)", is hardened of heart, atheist, Stephen Hawking, desperately trying to deceive people away from the overwhelming, great multitude of scientific proofs, of God's Existence as Creator of all that exists.

Please visit:
Scientific Proof That the Universe Does Not Exist without Conscious Man, Adam, to Observe it.​

A great and wonderfully discursive post, Steven . I must read that post you spoke about, too.

I tend to do 'hit and runs' with science threads I initiate, because I know that there is no limit to the folly of almost all atheists, while the mods give me a 'ticking off'. Yet the come, in the fullest depths of their ignorance of the subject, online sneering and leering at Christians with impunity. But you 'lace into' them and the first thing most of them do, is toddle off to the mods and whine about being bullied by you.

 

[paul becke]

What do you think is the motive of the powerful corporations ? (and others also)?

This was known and published and exposed (their motives) centuries ago, I think,
but I am not aware of how many people care or know this.

ysj, I believe it is to forfend against Christianity and the value system that could (and would) constrain their activities both corporate and in their private lives. And yes, atheists generally. Aldous Huxley said that in his set when he was younger it was really about constraints on their sex-lives that feared.

 

[StevenMerten]

A great and wonderfully discursive post, Steven . I must read that post you spoke about, too.

I tend to do 'hit and runs' with science threads I initiate, because I know that there is no limit to the folly of almost all atheists, while the mods give me a 'ticking off'. Yet the come, in the fullest depths of their ignorance of the subject, online sneering and leering at Christians with impunity. But you 'lace into' them and the first thing most of them do, is toddle off to the mods and whine about being bullied by you.

Hey Paul,

The Aliens are going to laugh at earth cosmologists explaining 13.8 billion years from creation.

This thread of mine, in the Creation CF Forum, has averaged 17 views a day for almost the past two years. I think you will love it!

 

[paul becke]

Hey Paul,

The Aliens are going to laugh at earth cosmologists explaining 13.8 billion years from creation.

This thread of mine, in the Creation CF Forum, has averaged 17 views a day for almost the past two years. I think you will love it!

Thanks, Steven. I must bolt over there.

 

[paul becke]

Hey Paul,

The Aliens are going to laugh at earth cosmologists explaining 13.8 billion years from creation.

This thread of mine, in the Creation CF Forum, has averaged 17 views a day for almost the past two years. I think you will love it!

Hi Steve,

It's way too technical for me. Pity, you are all obviously having a ball !

 

[StevenMerten]

Hi Steve,

It's way too technical for me. Pity, you are all obviously having a ball !

Hello Paul,
Basically physical time slows down the faster you go. At the speed of light, physical time stops. So to Aliens from planets, of a full spectrum of different velocities, the Big Bang (creation), will have happened anywhere from a few days ago to a trillion years ago. This is going to have the Aliens laughing till they pea their pants, when earth cosmologists tell them that creation happened at a specific 'time'.

Using Time Dilation, Billions of years of Star Formation Can Occur in Six Days.​

 

[paul becke]

Hello Paul,
Basically physical time slows down the faster you go. At the speed of light, physical time stops. So to Aliens from planets, of a full spectrum of different velocities, the Big Bang (creation), will have happened anywhere from a few days ago to a trillion years ago. This is going to have the Aliens laughing till they pea their pants, when earth cosmologists tell them creation happened at a specific 'time'.

Using Time Dilation, Billions of years of Star Formation Can Occur in Six Days.​

Hey, Steve,

I can believe that !

 

[StevenMerten]

Hey, Steve,

I can believe that !

Isn't this crazy!

It is all scientifically proven. In fact, our GPS satellites have to have computers to correct for time dilation, otherwise they would put you in the ditch. GPS satellites have a slower elapsing physical time than we do on earth, due to their greater velocity. Time Dilation, has to be compensated for on our GPS system.

 

[StevenMerten]

Time dilation and space flight
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Time dilation would make it possible for passengers in a fast-moving vehicle to travel further into the future while aging very little, in that their great speed slows down the rate of passage of on-board time. That is, the ship's clock (and according to relativity, any human traveling with it) shows less elapsed time than the clocks of observers on earth. For sufficiently high speeds the effect is dramatic. For example, one year of travel might correspond to ten years at home. Indeed, a constant 1 g acceleration would permit humans to travel through the entire known Universe in one human lifetime. The space travelers could return to Earth billions of years in the future. A scenario based on this idea was presented in the novel Planet of the Apes by Pierre Boulle.
Quoted From: Wikipedia Time Dilation
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Wikipedia talks about being able to travel the whole universe in one human life time. If you travel to the edge of the universe, 13.8 billion light years away, that means that 13.8 billion years went by on earth, at earths velocity, while it only took you only days or months, at your, near the speed of light, star ship.

So lets say that you do spend your life traveling the 'entire known universe', and you log 100 billion earth light years traveled. When you do finally get back to earth, earth will be 100 billion years older. So how many years from creation is it when you get back to earth? Is it 13.8 billion years from creation plus your lifetime, or is it 113.8 billion years from creation?

Actually both answers are correct. It all depends on your velocity as to how much physical time has elapsed from creation. Elapsing physical time is a variable and not the constant in the universe, scientists want you to believe so they can sell you charts on the time stages of the Big Bang. In fact, you can choose any, 'physical time since creation', and then do the math to figure out what velocity you have to be at, to say creation happened this many years ago.

All God has to do is put earth at near the speed of light while He creates star formations at slower velocities. In this way God can bring, billions of years of star formation, into existence during six days on earth.