Anybody have a good and easy to understand definition of (with supporting evidence) of purgatory?
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Originally posted by bigonbible
How can Catholics not follow the teachings of the New Testament?
Originally posted by bigonbible
How can Catholics not follow the teachings of the New Testament?
Originally posted by Badfish
This answer is MUCH better than VOW's answer.
VOW: Can you please direct me and others to this "specific" rule violation?
We need to know this.
And also can you back up your claim and provide proof that the Catholic Church is responsible for the New Testament?
Jesus Christ and his revelation is responsible, not a man made church or it's congregation.
Originally posted by VOW
To Badfish:
The Catholic Church traces its origins to Peter, when Christ renamed Simon to Peter and said, "Upon this rock I will build My Church." Peter means rock, and up until that point, it was never used as a person's name.
The Catholic Church can show an unbroken line of leadership from Peter to the present day John Paul II.
The Early Church Fathers, using the Sacred Tradition of the Apostles and the guidance of the Holy Spirit, discerned which writings were Scripture, and they declared the canon of the New Testament in the Fourth Century. It is through their efforts that I say the New Testament was assembled by the Catholic Church.
Peace be with you,
~VOW
Originally posted by Badfish
Dang I'm slow.
Thanks for the info, is this an opinionated statement, or is it a statement that can be proved to be "Catholic" ?
When was the word Catholic first used? It does not appear in the bible.
As far as I can see it came into being in the 15th century. Around 1614
of, relating to, or being a Christian church having a hierarchy of priests and bishops under the pope, a liturgy centered in the Mass, veneration of the Virgin Mary and saints, clerical celibacy, and a body of dogma including transubstantiation and papal infallibility.
Can the actual Catholic name and it's traditions be traced back any further?
Originally posted by Hoonbaba
Christ established the Church (Matt 16:17-19), it wasn't merely 'man-made' in the sense that it's a mere institution.
Also, (no offense of course) but I'm surprised you even question how the Catholic church is responsible for the canonization of the NT. Nearly every bible scholar will tell you that the NT was put together by Catholics. By the way, did you know that the doctrine of the trinity came about by the Catholic church?![]()
God bless!
-Jason
Originally posted by VOW
To Badfish:
Uh, no, it's not in the Bible. Again, it was first used by one of the Early Church Fathers some time in the second century, I believe. Wols or Neal has the exact quote, I believe.
You will find people who wish to date the origin of the Catholic Church to the time of Constantine. That is in error. There was the leadership structure, and the Bishop in Rome from the very beginning. Again, there is an UNBROKEN LINE of Papal succession from Peter to John Paul II. The history is there.
Peace be with you,
~VOW