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<blockquote data-quote="anonymouswho" data-source="post: 69074131" data-attributes="member: 379306"><p>Hello friend and thank you for joining us. I'm having trouble understanding what you are saying here. If God knows something, how does He go about "not knowing" it? And if He chose to "not know" what we will do, then how did He know Jeremiah's parents would eventually conceive him?</p><p></p><p>"Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,</p><p><strong>Before</strong> I formed thee in the belly <strong>I knew thee</strong>; and <strong>before</strong> thou camest forth out of the womb <strong>I sanctified thee</strong>, <em>and</em><strong> I ordained thee</strong> a prophet unto the nations.</p><p>Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I <em>am</em> a child.</p><p>But the LORD said unto me, <strong>Say not, I </strong><em><strong>am</strong></em><strong> a child</strong>: for <strong>thou shalt go</strong> to all that I shall send thee, and <strong>whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak</strong>.</p><p>Be not afraid of their faces: for I <em>am</em>with thee to deliver thee, saith the LORD." Jeremiah 1:4</p><p></p><p>Even before Jeremiah was born, God knew him. It was not Jeremiah's will to speak, but God said he was going to do it anyways. Jeremiah did not have a free choice. </p><p></p><p>Was it only Jeremiah? Was it only Pharaoh? Did they all make their own "freewill" decisions about what they would do with their lives? Or did God choose them specifically to inflict His will over theirs?</p><p></p><p>"Then Peter opened <em>his</em> mouth, and said, Of a <strong>truth</strong> I perceive that God is <strong>no respecter of persons</strong>" Acts 10:34</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not so sure about this. Do rocks have a conscious? Does water? Or do they just move and flow wherever the wind and earth cause them to go? Likewise with man, except we have the ability to think about it.</p><p></p><p>Thank you and God bless you friend.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="anonymouswho, post: 69074131, member: 379306"] Hello friend and thank you for joining us. I'm having trouble understanding what you are saying here. If God knows something, how does He go about "not knowing" it? And if He chose to "not know" what we will do, then how did He know Jeremiah's parents would eventually conceive him? "Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, [B]Before[/B] I formed thee in the belly [B]I knew thee[/B]; and [B]before[/B] thou camest forth out of the womb [B]I sanctified thee[/B], [I]and[/I][B] I ordained thee[/B] a prophet unto the nations. Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I [I]am[/I] a child. But the LORD said unto me, [B]Say not, I [/B][I][B]am[/B][/I][B] a child[/B]: for [B]thou shalt go[/B] to all that I shall send thee, and [B]whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak[/B]. Be not afraid of their faces: for I [I]am[/I]with thee to deliver thee, saith the LORD." Jeremiah 1:4 Even before Jeremiah was born, God knew him. It was not Jeremiah's will to speak, but God said he was going to do it anyways. Jeremiah did not have a free choice. Was it only Jeremiah? Was it only Pharaoh? Did they all make their own "freewill" decisions about what they would do with their lives? Or did God choose them specifically to inflict His will over theirs? "Then Peter opened [I]his[/I] mouth, and said, Of a [B]truth[/B] I perceive that God is [B]no respecter of persons[/B]" Acts 10:34 I'm not so sure about this. Do rocks have a conscious? Does water? Or do they just move and flow wherever the wind and earth cause them to go? Likewise with man, except we have the ability to think about it. Thank you and God bless you friend. [/QUOTE]
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