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<blockquote data-quote="anonymouswho" data-source="post: 69069907" data-attributes="member: 379306"><p>Hello my friend. Thank you for replying. I hope you don't find my bluntness rude, but could you please show me in the Scriptures where it says God is "outside of time", "created time", "simultaneously exist at all time", or anything similar? </p><p></p><p>The Scriptures say:</p><p></p><p>"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I <em>am</em> the <strong>first</strong>, and I <em>am</em> the <strong>last</strong>; and beside me <em>there is</em> no God.</p><p>And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them." Isaiah 44:6</p><p></p><p>How can that which is outside of time be "first" and "last"?</p><p></p><p>"Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting (H5769 <strong><a href="http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5769.htm" target="_blank">עוֹלָם</a></strong> olam: long duration, antiquity) to everlasting (<strong>עוֹלָם</strong>), thou <em>art</em> God." Psalm 90:2</p><p></p><p>God is called "the Ancient of Days", and ancient indicates time.</p><p></p><p>"For a <strong>thousand years </strong>in thy sight <em>are but </em>as yesterday when it is past, and <em>as</em> a watch in the night." Psalm 90:4</p><p></p><p>Augustine said that a day to God is eternity. That is unscriptural and doesn't really make any sense. The Scriptures seem to verify Relativity rather than Aristotle's "unmoving mover". How are we to have a relationship with an impersonal God? </p><p></p><p>Thank you my friend and God bless.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="anonymouswho, post: 69069907, member: 379306"] Hello my friend. Thank you for replying. I hope you don't find my bluntness rude, but could you please show me in the Scriptures where it says God is "outside of time", "created time", "simultaneously exist at all time", or anything similar? The Scriptures say: "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [I]am[/I] the [B]first[/B], and I [I]am[/I] the [B]last[/B]; and beside me [I]there is[/I] no God. And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them." Isaiah 44:6 How can that which is outside of time be "first" and "last"? "Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting (H5769 [B][URL='http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5769.htm']עוֹלָם[/URL][/B] olam: long duration, antiquity) to everlasting ([B]עוֹלָם[/B]), thou [I]art[/I] God." Psalm 90:2 God is called "the Ancient of Days", and ancient indicates time. "For a [B]thousand years [/B]in thy sight [I]are but [/I]as yesterday when it is past, and [I]as[/I] a watch in the night." Psalm 90:4 Augustine said that a day to God is eternity. That is unscriptural and doesn't really make any sense. The Scriptures seem to verify Relativity rather than Aristotle's "unmoving mover". How are we to have a relationship with an impersonal God? Thank you my friend and God bless. [/QUOTE]
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