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I just noticed that these 'new' rules were just stickied YESTERDAY! May I ask when they were initiated the FIRST time since we are being REMINDED of them?
I honestly do not recall ever seeing these rules before. Link please?
And you shouldn't publicly post things about people if you don't want to be responded to. One is for debate and one is not. But both forums are public forums. And once an idea is public it can be debated publicly.
Tall, if I had brought your name up in the thread or Free's name up in that thread, then fine, you both would've had reason to ask debate me on it. However, reality is that I was making a general observation about ex-Adventists that try to get other Adventists out of our church.
If that shoe fits you, wear it. Don't blame me for it.
The rules here are for Adventists. WE are the ones that I have to be comfortable in our forum. Why in the world would we try to make it more comfortable for the people bashing us?
If you were talking about Mother Theresa and Barney I could still comment on public information.
So if I understand correctly you want a place where you can be comfortable talking about people you don't like?
Thats all well and good--but WHEN were these rules first developed and POSTED for all the see and WHO did it?
Oh brother. We set up that area for Traditional Adventists to talk about Traditional Adventist issues and doctrine, where there would NOT be any debate.
It shouldn't make EX-Adventists uncomfortable at all, because they shouldn't be going there. They know they cannot debate there Tall, even though some try.
It's not that I don't like them. I am sick of people trying to bully us. That is the one place on this whole site where they CANNOT. That isn't going to change.
honorthesabbath said:Thats all well and good--but WHEN were these rules first developed and POSTED for all the see and WHO did it?
I won't read what the people on CARM say anymore Tall. It was just ugly. A bunch of people trying to tell Adventists they're stupid for staying in a church and giving a whole day to God?
As far as I know they were proposed in the FSG discussion and rejected, and then suddenly enacted yesterday.
I didn't go in your area and post debate. You are still free from my debate there. But your ideas are public, and fair game.
Tall73 said:Now, the real issue here that HTS seems to have picked up on , but perhaps you have not, is that many of your issues will now be off limits for discussion because they might accidentally mention a progressive concept or person. You and the progs have been censored.
I want a place to talk about ISSUES I don't like. PERIOD.
You do not have a say in what we talk about there. We already know that you disagree with us.
Where I take issue is when you or anybody else has the audacity to think you get to tell us we can't stay in a church that we agree with and are very thankful for. I know you don't like it that you can't influence our decisions, but that's how it is.
I agree. And you might get more traction if you posted a new thread.Well--that's what I thought! This is absolutely not right. Threads are being closed and SE's given by rules that didn't exist until AFTER the actions were done.
I think we need an explanation of this to our members.
You are taking a Traditional Adventist-specific problem and making it personal. You really just proved my point, if you'd stop and think about it. We ARE bullied here and can't say anything anywhere without ex-Adventists attacking it/us.
Nothing I said was about Progressives or Progressive concepts. I was specifically talking about ex-Adventists.
And can you show me where my thread you are referencing said you can't stay in the church?
Tall, not everyone is as blatant as Byfaithalone, but we get the idea of what you're trying to do here.
I don't take issue with debate or I never would've agreed to a debate section, but I think we all know why you're here. I won't have anything to do with rules that make it easier for YOU. This is our forum. It's for us and we need to be comfortable with the rules.
I agree. And you might get more traction if you posted a new thread.
Essentially this would make discussing prog or trad issues "flaming" or "baiting".
If they don't meet the threshold on their own merits then it should not matter where they are posted.
You can't make public statements without them being discussed? Welcome to life.
Tall said:And you will not be able to talk about progressives anymore either. Which you have done on occasion.
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