Freedom Riders

[stamperben]

Freedom Riders

A busload of desperate refugee children were being transferred this week from overcrowded facilities in South Texas to a location in California. They were greeted by a white mob blocking the road to the processing center. Morons chanting “impeach Obama” forced the buses to turn away.
Welcome to the arms of America.

Jeb Bush was right when he spoke about immigration reform this spring. It has probably ended his political career.[..]

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The racists who have hijacked our immigration policy like to claim that they embrace immigration so long as it done “legally” through the “proper channels.” This infuriating lie is the cousin of the deceptive rhetoric used in the gun control debate about “enforcing existing gun laws.”

Let’s remember a few details from the real world. For refugees, which is the status that many of these children will qualify for, this is the legal way. They are fleeing. Based on US and international law, they are being processed legally. When their status is determined, the law will determine how they are dealt with.

And for prospective immigrants to the US who are not refugees, there is no legal way. That’s the dumb reality behind the racist lies about immigration. That’s why so many people are working so hard to change the shape of our immigration laws in the face of resistance motivated by paranoia and deception.
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Read it and deal with it! This is one of your own telling you what you don't want to know. Thankfully there are sane voices in the Grand Old Party. Now only if they can drown out the sounds of the screaming tea pots with all the steam they put out.

 

[AztecSDSU]

They aren't refugees, the UN has very well defined standards for what constitutes a refugee and these children don't fit it at all. They are the children of economic immigrants that entered the US illegally. They need to be processed and returned home as quickly as possible.

You can try to make this a race thing all you want. End of the day the US does not need yet more immigrants with no job skills and minimal (if any) education. This is what is driving this minimum wage insanity, we don't need more unskilled labor. In fact we need a lot less of it.

 

[GarfieldJL]

I actually feel bad for these children, because I feel our President is responsible for this crisis. How many children were victimized, because they were lured here under the false promise that they could stay?

I'm extremely angry that people want to use these children as political pawns to ram through AMNESTY.

Not to mention:
Medical staff warned: Keep your mouths shut about illegal immigrants or face arrest | Fox News

 

[MachZer0]

I actually feel bad for these children, because I feel our President is responsible for this crisis. How many children were victimized, because they were lured here under the false promise that they could stay?

I'm extremely angry that people want to use these children as political pawns to ram through AMNESTY.

Not to mention:
Medical staff warned: Keep your mouths shut about illegal immigrants or face arrest | Fox News

The fiasco may have been engineered specifically to get amnesty voted into the law

 

[stamperben]

They aren't refugees, the UN has very well defined standards for what constitutes a refugee and these children don't fit it at all. They are the children of economic immigrants that entered the US illegally. They need to be processed and returned home as quickly as possible.

You can try to make this a race thing all you want. End of the day the US does not need yet more immigrants with no job skills and minimal (if any) education. This is what is driving this minimum wage insanity, we don't need more unskilled labor. In fact we need a lot less of it.

Do you have any idea what's going on in Central America?

 

[stamperben]

I actually feel bad for these children, because I feel our President is responsible for this crisis. How many children were victimized, because they were lured here under the false promise that they could stay?

I'm extremely angry that people want to use these children as political pawns to ram through AMNESTY.

Not to mention:
Medical staff warned: Keep your mouths shut about illegal immigrants or face arrest | Fox News

I know you don't have any idea what the conditions in Central America are, for Faux News didn't tell you.

 

[stamperben]

The fiasco may have been engineered specifically to get amnesty voted into the law

I've read many asinine statements on this site over the years, but this takes the cake.

 

[MachZer0]

I've read many asinine statements on this site over the years, but this takes the cake.

It pales in comparison to actually engineering the crisis

 

[GarfieldJL]

I know you don't have any idea what the conditions in Central America are, for Faux News didn't tell you.

Evidence illegal immigrants are being coached before crossing the border

Seriously, I personally believe we should be billing their countries of origin for the Room & Board costs of the children... Maybe that would get some of those governments down there to clean up their acts.

I believe that many of them should be

I've read many asinine statements on this site over the years, but this takes the cake.

Rahm Emanuel: You never want a serious crisis to go to waste - YouTube

MachZer0 actually has a valid point, given his former Chief of Staff...

 

[GondwanaLand]

They aren't refugees, the UN has very well defined standards for what constitutes a refugee and these children don't fit it at all.

Actually quite a few of them do indeed meet the standards. But I guess that to some people who apply a broad brush and blanket standards, it's easier to just shove them all way and ignore facts.

 

[MachZer0]

Actually quite a few of them do indeed meet the standards. But I guess that to some people who apply a broad brush and blanket standards, it's easier to just shove them all way and ignore facts.

It's my understanding that the U.S has a policy for Central and South American children (excluding Mexicans) similar to the wet foot dry foot policy for Cubans. If the child reaches U.S. soil he is automatically entitled to an asylum hearing which currently takes on average 2 years.

So when Obama says he's going to send them back, he's either lying or intends to break the law yet again.

 

[KWCrazy]

Do you have any idea what's going on in Central America?

Do you have any idea what immigration laws are?
Do you understand that when the president; who is sworn to uphold this nation's laws; openly violates those laws that he is committing a criminal act?
Do you understand that in America our leaders cannot openly commit felonies?
Do you know that this administration is joining with foreign countries to sue Arizona for enforcing U.S. immigration law?
Do you know that this administration has actively recruited illegal aliens for the sole intent of using them as a voting block for political power?
These children aren't refugees, but the children of foreign nationals whom our president has recruited to use as political pawns. That fact that you condone this criminal behavior is very disturbing.

 

[Teilhard]

Remember. You were strangers in the Land of Egypt.

 

[AztecSDSU]

Actually quite a few of them do indeed meet the standards. But I guess that to some people who apply a broad brush and blanket standards, it's easier to just shove them all way and ignore facts.

They don't. To be legitimate refugee you must, per international law, flee to the nearest stable country. Not the one where you think you stand to economically benefit the most. The United States is not the nearest stable country for any of these people. They are economic immigrants.

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

It's my understanding that the U.S has a policy for Central and South American children (excluding Mexicans) similar to the wet foot dry foot policy for Cubans. If the child reaches U.S. soil he is automatically entitled to an asylum hearing which currently takes on average 2 years.

So when Obama says he's going to send them back, he's either lying or intends to break the law yet again.

But yet they'll take some kid at machine gun point and deport him back to Cuba...

The Honduran government apparently also doesn't want to take their own citizens back...which is an issue.

 

[GarfieldJL]

Do you have any idea what immigration laws are?
Do you understand that when the president; who is sworn to uphold this nation's laws; openly violates those laws that he is committing a criminal act?
Do you understand that in America our leaders cannot openly commit felonies?
Do you know that this administration is joining with foreign countries to sue Arizona for enforcing U.S. immigration law?
Do you know that this administration has actively recruited illegal aliens for the sole intent of using them as a voting block for political power?
These children aren't refugees, but the children of foreign nationals whom our president has recruited to use as political pawns. That fact that you condone this criminal behavior is very disturbing.

It's called: "The ends justify the means..."

Obama is willing to use thousands of children as political pawns, endangering their lives for his own political gain.

 

[GondwanaLand]

They don't. To be legitimate refugee you must, per international law, flee to the nearest stable country. Not the one where you think you stand to economically benefit the most. The United States is not the nearest stable country for any of these people. They are economic immigrants.

Um, sorry, but yes, the US is indeed the nearest stable country, frankly.

 

[AztecSDSU]

Um, sorry, but yes, the US is indeed the nearest stable country, frankly.

No, the definition of a stable country is again quite clear from international law. There are many stable countries that are far closer to these people than the United States. They are economic immigrants violating American boarders illegally for solely economic reasons.

 

[EddardStark]

Remember. You were strangers in the Land of Egypt.

So.... do you advocate implementing the entirety of the Torah, or are you a hypocrite?

Um, sorry, but yes, the US is indeed the nearest stable country, frankly.

No, Mexico is. And yes, despite its drug problems, Mexico is stable. Otherwise, Italy should also be considered unstable, because of the problems it has with the mafia.

 

[Teilhard]

So.... do you advocate implementing the entirety of the Torah, or are you a hypocrite?

So rare to see a true loaded question these days!

(More seriously--I am not a Marcionite).