Free Will Baptist?

[aReformedPatriot]

How many of you are free will baptists?

 

[aReformedPatriot]

I should actually say that I am an Arminian in the SBC

 

[BT]

It might help if you define "Free Will Baptists".

 

[aReformedPatriot]

there is a denomination of free will baptists. But I would define it as non-calvanist/reformed

 

[rural_preacher]

I voted "No" because I am not a part of the National Association of Free Will Baptists. However, the church I pastor started out as the First Free Will Baptist Church (in 1858), but left the free will baptists and changed its name in the early 1900's. So, although I am not a free will baptist, my current church traces its history back to that movement.

 

[BT]

Never heard of them. But up here in Canada we don't have as many "Baptist denominations" as you folks in the States (from what I understand). I myself am an Independent Baptist. Non-Calvinist, Non-Arminian..

 

[rural_preacher]

It might help if you define "Free Will Baptists".

Check out http://www.nafwb.org/nationalindex.htm

 

[BT]

Where do you fall in the whole Calvinist/Arminian/Other range rural_preacher?

 

[aReformedPatriot]

Never heard of them. But up here in Canada we don't have as many "Baptist denominations" as you folks in the States (from what I understand). I myself am an Independent Baptist. Non-Calvinist, Non-Arminian..

So your not OSAS?

 

[BT]

So your not OSAS?

Yes I am OSAS, but it has nothing to do with "P" in TULIP.

 

[rural_preacher]

Where do you fall in the whole Calvinist/Arminian/Other range rural_preacher?

I am a follower of JC...not John Calvin...Jesus Christ.

I like to point people to an excellent article written by Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel. I am not a "Calvinist" nor am I an "Arminian". I try to avoid such classifications. This article does an excellent job of explaining the issue and I find myself agreeing to a considerable degree with it.

http://www.calvarychapel.com/library/smith-chuck/books/caatwog.htm

 

[BT]

I am a follower of JC...not John Calvin...Jesus Christ.

I like to point people to an excellent article written by Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel. I am not a "Calvinist" nor am I an "Arminian". I try to avoid such classifications. This article does an excellent job of explaining the issue and I find myself agreeing to a considerable degree with it.

http://www.calvarychapel.com/library/smith-chuck/books/caatwog.htm

We are, once again, on the same page. When I first started to study theology calvinism was presented to me, in a favorable way. I could not reconcile it with the Bible, and Arminianism was presented to me. I could not reconcile it with the Bible (and naturally during every conversation with a calvinist when they found me to disagree I was an "obvious Arminian", because you know in seminary if you aren't one you have to be the other.. Cause that's what the profs think, and that's what the "scholars" teach... argh don't even get me started on those Pharisees). So I avoid either classification. I find that there are some serious errors in both camps and so I steer clear of them. However I came to learn that in general it is not enough (for those of us who are called of God) to know what we believe, it is also mandatory (IMO) for us to know why we believe what we believe. So I had to really get the two concepts studied. It was a long and often brutal task, but coming out the other end of it I appreciated the effort. The finish was worth the race so to speak...

I'm looking forward to reading that article. Thanks again for another great resource.

 

[rural_preacher]

I am a follower of JC...not John Calvin...Jesus Christ.

My father-in-law always says, "Why would I call myself Calvinist? John Calvin didn't die for my sins, Jesus Christ did."

 

[rural_preacher]

We are, once again, on the same page. When I first started to study theology calvinism was presented to me, in a favorable way. I could not reconcile it with the Bible, and Arminianism was presented to me. I could not reconcile it with the Bible (and naturally during every conversation with a calvinist when they found me to disagree I was an "obvious Arminian", because you know in seminary if you aren't one you have to be the other.. Cause that's what the profs think, and that's what the "scholars" teach... argh don't even get me started on those Pharisees). So I avoid either classification. I find that there are some serious errors in both camps and so I steer clear of them. However I came to learn that in general it is not enough (for those of us who are called of God) to know what we believe, it is also mandatory (IMO) for us to know why we believe what we believe. So I had to really get the two concepts studied. It was a long and often brutal task, but coming out the other end of it I appreciated the effort. The finish was worth the race so to speak...

I'm looking forward to reading that article. Thanks again for another great resource.

I know exactly the struggle that you went through. I think sometimes those who take a solid position on one of those "camps" do so not because they truly believe it or agree with it, but because they find it easier to just take a side rather than meet the struggle and figure it out then take a stand for biblical truth.

I had men at my ordination council who were on both sides and some who were really struggling with it. You can imagine what I had to deal with being questioned by such a diverse group...

 

[Glorianna]

No, I'm not!

 

[Bulldog]

Yep. I'm an anabaptist that believes in the free will of God.

"Why would I call myself Calvinist? John Calvin didn't die for my sins, Jesus Christ did."

 

[Bulldog]

I am a follower of JC...not John Calvin...Jesus Christ.

I like to point people to an excellent article written by Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel. I am not a "Calvinist" nor am I an "Arminian". I try to avoid such classifications..

Kinda like folowing the Bible and trusting Jesus Christ as your Saviour and not being a Christian, huh?

Classifications aren't chosen, the're given based on what you belive. If you agree with Chuck Smith, then you are a four-point Arminian.

 

[aReformedPatriot]

I dont know if I agree with every arminian doctrine, but I am not OSAS.

 

[Bulldog]

I dont know if I agree with every arminian doctrine, but I am not OSAS.

You believe that one can lose their salvation?

 

[Moma E]

No, not FWB. Attended a church every summer of my life when I went to visit the family in North Carolina. Still visit it. but I do not believe you can loose your salvation as they do.