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Is it a fact or a presumption that the free and open discussion of ideas, in a rational manner, will make us successful as individuals and as a people?

I think the answer is yes. Unfortunately the nature of humans is to protect themselves ( pride ) and doesn't lend to the premise.
 
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Is it a fact or a presumption that the free and open discussion of ideas, in a rational manner, will make us successful as individuals and as a people?

Sure, as long as we validate the ideas and throw out the arbitrary, false and the contradictory.
 
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Is it a fact or a presumption that the free and open discussion of ideas, in a rational manner, will make us successful as individuals and as a people?
Freedom alone does not guarantee success.

That said, I certainly dont want to be told what to talk about.
 
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"What is your focus?" a learned imam said to me one time, slapping his fist into his hand. I think he meant something like "drishti" (vision, view etc).


Whats your opinion on focus and fate? Ones spirit? I like to learn about this, because I am sozzled by ignorance.

But when youre famous or infamous, or "high profile" things get tricky. A politician is like one riding a lion, Ali (ra) reportedly said, people may envy his skill but he knows the dangers better.

I think the same goes for do good philosophers sometimes.
 
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Is it a fact or a presumption that the free and open discussion of ideas, in a rational manner, will make us successful as individuals and as a people?
Do you want this question be discussed in a free, open and rational manner?
IOW: What are the alternatives to discussing ideas freely, openly and rationally that you have in mind?
 
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Quatona said:
Do you want this question be discussed in a free, open and rational manner?
IOW: What are the alternatives to discussing ideas freely, openly and rationally that you have in mind?




"Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing, and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there."​

(Rumi)​

Good questions. *smiles*
 
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Is it a fact or a presumption that the free and open discussion of ideas, in a rational manner, will make us successful as individuals and as a people?

If all we do is discuss, then it's likely that the more freedom we have to exclusively talk about whatever we want the less of a society we become. We approach the absent-minded Laputans who lives in the skycastles of their own ideas but lack a four-year-old's ability to live practically on the earth.

Free discussion ideas only becomes valuable if we balance this with a free living out of these ideas.
 
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