I heard that some saints of Southern Germany have tails, or fur, etc. Apparently, they're associated with the Wens(sp?) can any one confirm/deny this for me?
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I've exhausted my resources (aka google) looking. I've heard this from several reliable sources (a well educated priest and a Harvard Prof), but I can't find any records of them online. Supposedly, they were in facts old pagan gods that the church cannonized to convert some native tribes in the area.
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The Church has never and would never canonize a pagan god in order to convert anybody. First of all, to be canonized you must be Catholic. And there are plenty other criteria, including common sense, which would not allow a pagan god to be canonized. It runs against everything the Church is. I suspect that this is an anti-Catholic myth that someone made up to discredit the Church. Sort of like the myth that the Church slaughtered a few million during the Inquisition, when there were not even a few million in all of Europe. Its just not true.CrazyChick said:
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This is by far the oddest question I have ever heard asked! I'm sorry...not saying that to be mean, I have heard some strange Catholic questions but this takes the cake!
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Those credible sources that you have heard, are incredible, as in incredibly ridiculous. This is not true, and I can't believe some of the stories that are created by people.
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I have either read or heard somewhere recently that local peoples sometimes take a holy person form their region (and oddly I'm thinking this was in Italy)-and make them a "Saint"-- but that the person would not be formally canonized. It would just be a local devotion to a particular person- so that the village could lay claims to their own saint.
Maybe the example you write of is something similar??
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Maybe the example you write of is something similar??
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One example of this was William Wallace (think Braveheart) Many Scots still call him "St. William" even though he was never canonized.ShannonMcMorland said:
However I seriously, seriously, seriously, seriously doubt this could happen to a mythical pagan god....
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Many people allege that St. Brighid is actually the Celtic goddess Brighid (or Bride), converted into a Saint in order to help the Celts acclimate to Christinaity.
Not saying I believe it, but I've hard it all over the place (though not necessarily from reliable sources, if ya know what I mean! )
I'd say it's a "Dan Brown" kind of myth...
Not saying I believe it, but I've hard it all over the place (though not necessarily from reliable sources, if ya know what I mean!
)I'd say it's a "Dan Brown" kind of myth...
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This is what I suspect happened in the OP's reported case. St. Brigid is a real person, known historically, who was named after the Celtic goddess (before conversion, obviously!), but the legends surrounding her have assimilated some of the stories about the goddess as well.Tribe said:Many people allege that St. Brighid is actually the Celtic goddess Brighid (or Bride), converted into a Saint in order to help the Celts acclimate to Christinaity.
Not saying I believe it, but I've hard it all over the place (though not necessarily from reliable sources, if ya know what I mean!
I'd say it's a "Dan Brown" kind of myth...
The folks you may be speaking of are the Wends, or Sorbians, a Slavic people who used to be very common in eastern Germany and are now reduced to a few small communities in extreme easternmost Saxony, 20-30 miles from the Elbe and the Polish border. I know nothing of their mythology or conversion, but the description sounds like some of the pre-Christian Slavic demigods. And, as with St. Brigid, it may be that legends about a real saint have picked up stories associated with a similarly-named pagan deity.
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I know the budha for was saint for a long time, but I think he was removed whenever the church (relatively)recently cleaned up thier list.
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This is more or less the standard process for "creating" a saint in the sense of canonization -- popular honor given to the memory of a deceased "saintly" person is one of the major factors leading to the Vatican considering someone for beatification and canonization, and is the process used (in different ways) in the canonization processes in Orthodoxy and (informally) in Anglicanism -- we don't canonize, but each national church will add exemplary persons to the calendar after careful review of who and what they were. Phillips Brooks, long-time pastor and a bishop for his last few years of earthly life, is on our calendar -- he was the writer of "O Little Town of Bethlehem" and I have a collection of his sermons which is great devotional reading.ShannonMcMorland said:
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I had book somewhere of some of the more exotic saints, but I can't find it. You might want to check out saint Josaphat though, who I think happens to be the Buddha.
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This Saint Josaphat? http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08503b.htmCrazyChick said:
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