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fustration, leads to insanity. it's crazy trying to control the action of another. that will drive you nutz, righ wooobBecause it is religious discrimination.
Now, if they are really being honest, and fear that the GC will take legal action against them, then it isn't morally wrong.
However, since the GC didn't order them to remove the name, while ordering them to remove the image, this indicates that their excuse for fear of legal action being taken against them is just that--an excuse, not an honest answer to the question.
But that's just my opinion.
Here is why I think we should use the word "Evanglical" instead of "Moderate"
1. progressive is associated with humanist, and social liberal ideas, such as naturalism, darwin rather then supernaturalism, creation "gay" marriage, sexual freedom, progressive morality, and marriage
2. Evanglcal is usually associated with such things as the refermantion, Billy Graham, the Great Awakening, the Baptist and Methodist chruch, Non denominatialism , out reach and public evanglism
what is the problem with humans being humanist?humanist deny god, the start with man and end with man The original concept is not a bad idea.... what are social liberal ideas? as opposed to social conservative who belive in the family values and traditional marriage, they pro gay marriage, pro open marriage Gay marriage, now there is a topic for a thread... vigorous discussion I am sure...
I hear what you are saying Ice, but I prefer progressive as opposed to Evangelical.....I am not talking about progressive vs evanglicalism , I am talking about evanglicism vs moderatewhen you say evangelical I think of Falwell, Robertson, and Swaggart...that is fundimentalis, I think rick warren, willow creek, maranatha praise music, micheal card, Max lucado, Chuch swindoll, Adrain rodgers, Philip Yancy, Billy Graham,World vision, samaratains purse, the salvation army, Moody bible instutite, the Baptist chruch, I am not comfortable with that association..How about the association i listed above? so you would rather be assoicated with Christ haters and apostates, something wrong with that [/quote] checke this out
i think this is just your association not Evanglical adventist or Evanglical ChristiansSee? I'm not the only one who doesn't want to be called Evangelical. The word, "Evangelical" is like the word, "Gay." It doesn't mean what it used to. The Evengelicals have given Evangelicalism a bad name. They also help conservative Republicans get elected.
Ew, Pew! (holds nose)
good point jon, in fact christian was a degratory term at first, christian today is being smeard all over the place and usually it's not true. so i don't see where the problem is with "Evanglical" in the forum. I see it as saying we still belive in the bible and the sabbath, but just disagree with you on some points, were still believers, I associate progressive with liberal, like those who believe in theistic eveloution and deny the miriclaes of the bible, deny prophecy. that is what i associate with progressive.Many words have a bad name in some ways, including Christian.
JM
this sounds more attractivehow about Moderate, Evanglical & Progressive Adventist forum
humanist deny god, the start with man and end with man The original concept is not a bad idea.... what are social liberal ideas? as opposed to social conservative who belive in the family values and traditional marriage, they pro gay marriage, pro open marriage
I am not talking about progressive vs evanglicalism , I am talking about evanglicism vs moderatewhen you say evangelical I think of Falwell, Robertson, and Swaggart...that is fundimentalis, I think rick warren, willow creek, maranatha praise music, micheal card, Max lucado, Chuch swindoll, Adrain rodgers, Philip Yancy, Billy Graham,World vision, samaratains purse, the salvation army, Moody bible instutite, the Baptist chruch, I am not comfortable with that association..How about the association i listed above? so you would rather be assoicated with Christ haters and apostates, something wrong with that
You bes confused indeed. You do not comprehend the actual meanings of the word progressive or the word liberal, and you use both in the same confused sense as neo-con pundits program their shills to use them, which makes this one rather uncomfortable with the insinuations your posts edge into.good point jon, in fact christian was a degratory term at first, christian today is being smeard all over the place and usually it's not true. so i don't see where the problem is with "Evanglical" in the forum. I see it as saying we still belive in the bible and the sabbath, but just disagree with you on some points, were still believers, I associate progressive with liberal, like those who believe in theistic eveloution and deny the miriclaes of the bible, deny prophecy. that is what i associate with progressive.
That would be fine but you have forgotten the "Formers" in the mix. As a "Former" what bes very much enjoying this new subforum, Moriah takesy exception to that.how about Moderate, Evanglical & Progressive Adventist forum
That would be fine but you have forgotten the "Formers" in the mix. As a "Former" what bes very much enjoying this new subforum, Moriah takesy exception to that.
Personally it considers the word "moderate" to be a total throwaway & meaningless designator. It would favour something like "Progressive, Evangelical, and Former Adventists."
What they call the "Adventist message" goes way beyond the 28 FBs and includes last-generation perfectionism and thus excludes a lot of Adventists who wouldn't call themselves Progressives or Evangelicals.Members of this forum agree with the Official 28 Fundamental Beliefs of Seventh-day Adventist Church and hold to the Adventist message.
We don't do it to be pretty. Being Moderate only means you can be dumped on by both sides. Anyway, one man's ambiguity is another man's nuanced, multi-dimensional thinking.In reality the beauty of moderate is that it is ambiguous.
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