Forgivness & Confession

rugerfann said:

He started the rcc far as I can tell.He permited it to hapen so he had controll.

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You obviously can't tell very far, then. Christ started the Catholic Church 300 years before Constantine got involved. The Anabaptists claim, like the Mormons and JWs, that they are the 'real' Christian Church. And like the Mormons and JWs, they can't prove it, because there's absolutely no record of such beliefs in early Christianity.

Constantine merely ended the persecution of the Christian faith by legitimizing it and making it the official state religion for the Empire. A nice change, considering what the Romans were doing for the previous three centuries. But 'Constantine starting the Roman Catholic Church' is a mind-blowing spin on history. It actually ranks up there with 'The Septuagint didn't exist until after the New Testament' and 'The Council of Trent added books to the Bible' for sheer ridiculousness.

And as for me not having an 'open mind,' there's a difference. I've looked at the alternatives, and I've followed the evidence to where it leads. I don't ignore vast tracts of Scripture when they don't conform to what I want them to say.

Borealis said:

Constantine merely ended the persecution of the Christian faith by legitimizing it and making it the official state religion for the Empire.

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It was Theodosius who made Christianity the state religion for the Empire, not Constantine. Constantine brought an end to the persecution of Christians and established Sunday as a non-working day, basically freeing Christians to worship openly during the daylight hours of Sunday where previously it was done in secret after sundown on Saturday.

John.

filosofer said:

Take a look at BDAG to see the range of meaning.

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I don't have a spare $125 for the book so what is it if you don't mind?