Harpuia said:Well, I'm not worried about Israel militarily, they've proven they can take care of themselves just fine. The problem is the rest of the world's treatment of Israel simply because the Arabs have the goods...
Chosen One said:Obviously you have never driven on the nice side of town in LA, New York, Boston, Balitmore. All the mailboxes are *teins, *mans, etc....
To claims that Arabs have the goods is a farce. The Israeli lobby runs this country- not you, not me- them.....
We shouldn't give EITHER side aid. We should butt out and allow the parties involved to settle the conflict on their terms. Yes, Israel does happen to have hundreds of times more military power than all the Arab nations combined--but that isn't its fault; the Soviet Union tried with all its might to use the Arab states to crush Israel, and if they failed... well, I guess a higher power is to blame.Vylo said:Bear in mind my opinion of Israel is well...... dismal to say the least. I have generally been against most of the aid we have given them. But if Palestinians persist upon attacking Israel, and Israel maintains a defensive stance, I could see myself supporting the notion of giving Israel aid. If they do persist, and Israel doesn't reciprocate their violence, we should gather the international community for an ultimatum (because those are fun) towards Palestian: "make peace and we will consider your becoming an independent nation. Use force and terror, and will assure your expulsion".
Umm guys... am I the only one who seems to think this kind of rhetoric is straight out of the Protocols?Chosen One said:Obviously you have never driven on the nice side of town in LA, New York, Boston, Balitmore. All the mailboxes are *teins, *mans, etc....
To claims that Arabs have the goods is a farce. The Israeli lobby runs this country- not you, not me- them.....
indra_fanatic said:Umm guys... am I the only one who seems to think this kind of rhetoric is straight out of the Protocols?
Echuu Shen Jon said:Every Inch given to terrorists is a crime if you ask me, if i was sharon i would take back all i had already given, hopefully the PA will screw up yet again, and israel will be able to reclaim their land.
armyman_83 said:Independent Nation?! Oh my gosh! Come on they have been killing the Jews for years; the Arabs had their chance in 1949, when they could have had more land than the Jews. But they said "no". The Jews tried and tried for peace through paper but it just didn't work. They won and now the Arabs have little because they refused there chance.
Echuu Shen Jon said:Every Inch given to terrorists is a crime if you ask me,
What a great idea. Im sure that will result in less death, and more peace. I bet the Palestinians would all condemn Hamas if that were to happen. I bet the Jews would never experience another terrorist attack if you got your way.if i was sharon i would take back all i had already given, hopefully the PA will screw up yet again, and israel will be able to reclaim their land.
Chosen One said:Oh yes- EVERY PALESTINEAN is a terrorists. We must not forget this.
We must also remember that this is Israel's land- home for the Jews. It is simply a mistake of history that non Jews have been living on it for hundreds of generations. It is also a mistake of history that Jews moved away from this land to live in Europe, North America, Russia, and other places.
Harpuia said:You invalidate your whole statement as an absolute. There are Palestinian Christians, you call them terrorists? You just did. Smart move.
Actually, it's a part of history. Romans burn the place down and call it Palestine. Jews come back some 1600 years later. Now that that's been out in the open for a couple years now, the thought of "Well, the Palestinians had it first," becomes less and less common.
Chosen One said:It is good to see sarcasm is lost on some people. However, you give me an idea. How about we switch off every 1600 years or so. Arabs had it from around 400 AD to 1942 or so.. Let's let the Jews have it until 3200 or so. By then, we should hopefully be off of oil so the region will be a lot less hostile.
Chosen One said:Offtopic- but I once dated a girl named Gaza. The name of this thread gives me the chuckles.
Specter, Arlen (R-PA) $234,200
koninkaulus said:UN declared two truces May 29 1948 and July 18, 1948. On both occasions Folke Bernadotte (UN mediator) presented partitions plans and both sides rejected them. On the September 17 Lehi assassinated Bernadotte.
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