For the young earthers

[philadiddle]

How do you know the universe had a beginning? I'm looking for an answer outside of scripture.

 

[Mallon]

I'm looking for an answer outside of scripture.

Is that allowed?

 

[marktheblake]

How do you know the universe had a beginning? I'm looking for an answer outside of scripture.

Because scientists keep telling us so, and that agrees with what God is telling us.

I am pretty sure that the 'steady state' theory has now been totally disregarded.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Because scientists keep telling us so, and that agrees with what God is telling us.

I am pretty sure that the 'steady state' theory has now been totally disregarded.

And yet the ultimate steady state theorist, Hoyle, is such a beloved Creationist PRATT with that "tornado in junkyard" gibberish.

 

[marktheblake]

The one thing I like about Hoyle is that he is not a Christian, so it goes to show that not all creationist pratts are christians.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

The one thing I like about Hoyle is that he is not a Christian, so it goes to show that not all creationist pratts are christians.

Never said they were. However, spend any more than the briefest of periods discussing this topic and you'll come across Hoyle's tornado... I find it ironic that Creationists carry Hoyle, a steady state, exogenesis supporting athiest before them as one of their standards.

 

[philadiddle]

Because scientists keep telling us so, and that agrees with what God is telling us.

I am pretty sure that the 'steady state' theory has now been totally disregarded.

Are there specific evidences that scientists use that makes you think the universe has a beginning? So basically, if you were explaining why you think the universe has a beginning and you were explaining it to an atheist who was ignorant of science, what scientific evidence would you give him?

 

[OrdinaryClay]

And yet the ultimate steady state theorist, Hoyle, is such a beloved Creationist PRATT with that "tornado in junkyard" gibberish.

What is a PRATT?

 

[PaladinValer]

Practically Refuted A Thousand Times

 

[EnemyPartyII]

What is a PRATT?

Previously Refuted A Thousand Times

 

[philadiddle]

What is a PRATT?

Point refuted a thousand times.

 

[Dark_Lite]

To add to the variety:

Point Refuted A Thousand Times

 

[philadiddle]

There either aren't many YECs around or there are no YECs who can explain why we know the universe had a beginning.

 

[marktheblake]

Are there specific evidences that scientists use that makes you think the universe has a beginning?

Entropy.

 

[shernren]

PRATT = provokes repeated acronyms to tedium?

 

[PaladinValer]

PRATT=Provoked Rage Against Tommy Tutone

((Sorry; I couldn't resist ))

[[And I actually enjoy his music]]