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stray bullet said:The more we begin to have dialogue with those that struggle with same sex inclinations and as we grow in our understanding of how, it seems, God already allows this blurring of human sexuality in terms of gender, the more we can accept the possibility that homosexual inclinations are a disorder that is not a choice.
CrystalBrooke said:i know that heterosexuals are tempted too, that's how i got pregnant...and i do appriciate the fact that some homosexuals dont act on those temptations...but however, i still believe that acting or not, homosexuality is still a sin, and it is a choice IMO. it comes down to nature vs nurture, and i dont think that nature has anything to do with it...i know that some may have been abused as children and that somehow made them decide to be homosexual...it was still a choice and it is still wrong...but i didnt make this thread for a debate, i just wanted you guys to know that im still pursuing the faith, im just taking it slower.
princess_ballet said:Why would someone choose to be gay? Like or not, they are greatly discriminated against (not in laws, but people literally hate them and are not very civil).
CoreyZallow said:Homosexuality is a choice, eh?try to make
yourself attracted to somebody of the same sex as you.
Can you do it??DIDNT THINK SO!!
QuantaCura said:God said homosexual behavior is an abomination. That is what is chosen. Homosexual behavior is labeled a grave sin by the Catholic Church and always has been.
AmyHasQuestions said:So what changed that the church now says it is not a choice. How can something be a sin if it is outside of a person's control?
Bushido216 said:Just wondering... if homosexuals choose to be gay... have you chosen to be straight? Did you wake up one day and decide that you like guys? Or did you find yourself naturally drawn to men from childhood?
AmyHasQuestions said:But saying that homosexual is a term that can apply to people who have temptations for people of the same sex, is like saying that the term "thief" should apply to anyone who is ever tempted to steal. You are not a "thief" until you steal and you are not a homosexual until you have sex with someone of the same sex.
Globalnomad said:thank Him that you have normal healthy desires and dont have to worry about homosexuality.. i think it's the worst sin anyone could ever be stuck with.. btw.. homosexuals are born this way.. trust me they are... i have been this way since i was born.
larose said:i choose not to.
chris
proud2bcatholic said:2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. They do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial. .
ArchangelGabriel said:wait what???
what does this mean exactly?
is it saying that if i were to become homosexual it wouldnt be my choice?
how so?
fragmentsofdreams said:Homosexuals don't choose to be attracted to the same sex. How they respond to their attractions is their choice.
ArchangelGabriel said:well how can you figure that?
are you saying some are tempted worse than others when it comes to sinning or are you saying that we all have a temptation to be homosexual?
Globalnomad said:Amy and Crystal, is it clear?
Homosexual inclination = an abnormal trait caused by genes and/or childhood conditioning = temptation. Not chosen. Not a sin and was never considered sinful by the Church.
Homosexual behaviour = "acting out" on that abnormal inclination = freely chosen = sin. Was always condemned by the Church.
Homosexuality = can mean either of the above, and the person who hears it usually thinks of the OTHER meaning than what the speaker meant.... Nasty, confusing, imprecise word, which has caused us all this grief.
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