foolish and stupid arguments

[AgapeBible]

"Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord with a pure heart. Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will."
2 Timothy 2:22-25


I think a lot of the arguments here would qualify as foolish and stupid arguments. It could also be called discussions. But when the discussions get nasty, then they can be called foolish and stupid arguments.

 

[Thomas Kelly guessed]

agapedragon,

"Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord with a pure heart. Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will."
2 Timothy 2:22-25


I think a lot of the arguments here would qualify as foolish and stupid arguments. It could also be called discussions. But when the discussions get nasty, then they can be called foolish and stupid arguments.

I thought to add below from one thought of as St John Chysostom and church father.

Ver. 23. “But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.”
Do you see how he everywhere draws him off from questions; not that he was not able to overthrow them; for he was well able. For had he not been able he would have said, Be diligent, that thou mayest be able to refute them; as when he says, “Give attendance to reading, for by so doing thou shalt both save thyself and them that hear thee.” (1 Tim. iv. 13, 16.) But he knew that it was useless to enter at all into these disputes, that there will be no end of it, save contentions, enmities, insults, and reproaches. These “questions” therefore “avoid”; so that there are other questions, some relating to the Scriptures, some to other things.
Ver. 24. “And the servant of the Lord must not strive.”
Not even in questions ought he to strive, for the servant of the Lord must keep far from strife, since God is the God of peace, and what should the servant of the God of peace have to do with strife?

From NPNF1-13. Saint Chrysostom: Homilies on Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians, Timothy, Titus, and Philemon

 

[Thomas Kelly guessed]

People,

Below more information for

NPNF1-13. Saint Chrysostom: Homilies on Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians, Timothy, Titus, and Philemon

2 Timothy

Ver. 23. “But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.”

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf113.v.iv.vi.html?scrBook=2Tim&scrCh=2&scrV=23#v.iv.vi-p14.1

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[Thomas Kelly guessed]

People,

People,

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NPNF1-13. Saint Chrysostom: Homilies on Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians, Timothy, Titus, and Philemon

2 Timothy

Ver. 23. “But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.”

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf113.v.iv.vi.html?scrBook=2Tim&scrCh=2&scrV=23#v.iv.vi-p14.1

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[eachallberg]

"Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord with a pure heart. Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will."
2 Timothy 2:22-25

I think a lot of the arguments here would qualify as foolish and stupid arguments. It could also be called discussions. But when the discussions get nasty, then they can be called foolish and stupid arguments.

Do you see the irony in both the verse and your comment?

Paul didn't write the pastorals.

 

[AgapeBible]

I think there's nothing wrong with asking questions. How will we learn if we do not ask questions? When we argue and call each other names and get into quarrels, that is not good. Sometimes we must agree to disagree. Not everyone has the same opinion on the Bible, sometimes there is no right or wrong opinion. Everybody interprets the Bible differently, because we are all different, that is how god made us, he does not create human beings from a mold. Just because one group of Christians claim a certain interpretation of the bible is always right, does not mean they are always right and correct. Sometimes it seems whoever shouts and complains the loudest and rudest, whoever is the loudest and most obnoxious Christian demnding their view is correct is the one that people notice the most that everyone sees as the "correct" Christians.