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<blockquote data-quote="ArmenianJohn" data-source="post: 75144545" data-attributes="member: 324023"><p>That's a lot of verbal and logical gymnastics just to shift the blame from the Republican governors to minorities simply because you want it that way.</p><p></p><p>The protests are a constant with these states; if anything, New York had more people protesting and certainly in tighter confines than any cities in Florida or Texas. Arizona didn't have that many in protests yet is facing the same crisis as Florida and Texas. Whatever influence the protests had in spreading coronavirus it is not different from state to state.</p><p></p><p>What IS different is the policies put in place by the governors of those states. Cuomo had NY locked down. In particular, it was indoor activity that was most tightly locked down. Outdoor activity was less restricted, but still restricted. Parks and beaches were closed most of the time. When open, crowds were limited at those outdoor venues.</p><p></p><p>But Texas, Florida, and Arizona (and other red states) had their indoor businesses wide open for business. Governors in those states not only discouraged mask-wearing and social distancing, but in fact they DID NOT PERMIT for any local governments to mandate mask-wearing. Those states championed the White House's message of "it's a hoax, don't do anything about it, just open up the businesses, full speed ahead" and THAT is why you're seeing them spike while NY, NJ, and similar states are progressing with low numbers. California is the one democratic-led state that is having problems and that's due to the huge Republican swaths of population that exist in Orange County and up the Central Valley, who rejected and disobeyed the safety directives (again due to politics).</p><p></p><p>I get it that you want to blame the minorities and the protesters for everything to protect governors you support, but the facts don't support your desired narrative. The fact remains that good leadership with cautious policies that focused on the data and science in states led by Democratic governors is what's winning the fight against coronavirus in those states while politically-motivated poor leadership and reckless policies are leading to panic in red states with Republican governors.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ArmenianJohn, post: 75144545, member: 324023"] That's a lot of verbal and logical gymnastics just to shift the blame from the Republican governors to minorities simply because you want it that way. The protests are a constant with these states; if anything, New York had more people protesting and certainly in tighter confines than any cities in Florida or Texas. Arizona didn't have that many in protests yet is facing the same crisis as Florida and Texas. Whatever influence the protests had in spreading coronavirus it is not different from state to state. What IS different is the policies put in place by the governors of those states. Cuomo had NY locked down. In particular, it was indoor activity that was most tightly locked down. Outdoor activity was less restricted, but still restricted. Parks and beaches were closed most of the time. When open, crowds were limited at those outdoor venues. But Texas, Florida, and Arizona (and other red states) had their indoor businesses wide open for business. Governors in those states not only discouraged mask-wearing and social distancing, but in fact they DID NOT PERMIT for any local governments to mandate mask-wearing. Those states championed the White House's message of "it's a hoax, don't do anything about it, just open up the businesses, full speed ahead" and THAT is why you're seeing them spike while NY, NJ, and similar states are progressing with low numbers. California is the one democratic-led state that is having problems and that's due to the huge Republican swaths of population that exist in Orange County and up the Central Valley, who rejected and disobeyed the safety directives (again due to politics). I get it that you want to blame the minorities and the protesters for everything to protect governors you support, but the facts don't support your desired narrative. The fact remains that good leadership with cautious policies that focused on the data and science in states led by Democratic governors is what's winning the fight against coronavirus in those states while politically-motivated poor leadership and reckless policies are leading to panic in red states with Republican governors. [/QUOTE]
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