Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

Strong in Him · Feb 1, 2025

Apple Sky said:
Well Dean doesn't think he was lying

He was mistaken though.
Facts are facts - either that playing field was completely flat or it had some curvature. Land is solid; it can't change shape just because one man (Dean) wants it to.

All he needed to say was "I'm sorry, I wasn't aware of that"; "I'm sorry, that could have been misleading, I'll take that video down". Or "I'm sorry that I wasn't able to go to Antarctica. I need to look at all the things that they discovered and recorded and if there really was a 24-hour sun, I'll stick to my statement that it shows that the earth is a globe."
I am quite sure he would win respect, and maybe more followers, if he had the courage and grace to say those things. He hasn't. Instead he's given what seems to be a lengthy tirade, debunking something that he took no part in.

Strong in Him · Feb 1, 2025

Apple Sky said:
God's truth is by his word which I read everyday.

Well stick to that and forget YouTube, then.

Apple Sky · Feb 1, 2025

Phil G said:
Oh get real!! So Odle says he’s not lying and you believe him!

Yes

Phil G said:
And a video you posted said that Will Duffy is lying, so you believe it.

Yes

Phil G said:
And Russian vids says he’s lying so it must be true according to you

Yes

Phil G said:
There’s your nonsense exposed for all to see!

It's not nonsense it is the truth which you are to blind to see.

Phil G · Feb 1, 2025

Apple Sky said:
God's truth is by his word which I read everyday.

Rubbish. If you read the Bible every day, how come you didn't know Titus was in it?

Phil G · Feb 1, 2025

Apple Sky said:
Yes

Yes

Yes

It's not nonsense it is the truth which you are to blind to see.

Well it didn't take you long to start throwing around accusations that a fellow believer is lying again! And all on the say so of your beloved and his like. And you wonder why I don't treat your "apologies" as being sincere?

Apple Sky · Feb 1, 2025

Strong in Him said:
"I'm sorry that I wasn't able to go to Antarctica. I need to look at all the things that they discovered and recorded and if there really was a 24-hour sun, I'll stick to my statement that it shows that the earth is a globe."

If you'd watched the video you know why Dean will never go back on his word & why should he as his words which are God's words are all true.

Apple Sky · Feb 1, 2025

Phil G said:
Rubbish. If you read the Bible every day, how come you didn't know Titus was in it?

I must have missed that bit

Apple Sky · Feb 1, 2025

Phil G said:
Well it didn't take you long to start throwing around accusations that a fellow believer is lying again! And all on the say so of your beloved and his like. And you wonder why I don't treat your "apologies" as being sincere?

I'm wasn't throwing accusation around I was just answering you.

Phil G · Feb 1, 2025

Apple Sky said:
If you'd watched the video you know why Dean will never go back on his word & why should he as his words which are God's words are all true.

So Odle's words are God's words now!

In order to believe you and the likes of Odle, I would have to call true believers in Christ liars when they give eyewitness testimony of the curvature of the earth. That proves to me that Odle is wrong. Eyewitness testimony of members of Christ's own body of believers against an opinion about Scripture will always win that one.

Odle has not given me any eyewitness testimony of the earth being flat. All he has done is exactly what cult leaders do, twist Scripture for his own purposes.

Phil G · Feb 1, 2025

Apple Sky said:
I must have missed that bit

So what other bits have you missed? You prove you don't know the Bible.

Phil G · Feb 1, 2025

Apple Sky said:
I'm wasn't throwing accusation around I was just answering you.

Stop playing stupid. You're repeating and agreeing with the claims of Odle & Russian vids that Will Duffy is lying. That is as much throwing around accusations as saying it yourself.

Strong in Him · Feb 1, 2025

Apple Sky said:
If you'd watched the video you know why Dean will never go back on his word

I don't need to watch his rant, nor listen to his excuses.
He said, "if there is a 24-hour sun in Antarctica, it (the earth) is a ball." There IS a 24-hour sun there - if he had been able to go he would have seen it, but it was filmed. He would rather deny the evidence and call everyone a liar than say, "ok; I was wrong."
Pride was the first, and is probably the greatest, sin.

Apple Sky · Feb 1, 2025

Strong in Him said:
I don't need to watch his rant, nor listen to his excuses.

To be honest Dean is not ranting nor is he making excuses, he's just quoting from the Bible which confirms our belief.

Phil G · Feb 1, 2025

Apple Sky said:
To be honest Dean is not ranting nor is he making excuses, he's just quoting from the Bible which confirms our belief.

Rubbish. He's twisting what is written for his own purposes, which is to fool people like you.

prodromos · Feb 1, 2025

Apple Sky said:
So it's OK for you say that pastor Dean is lying but not OK for others to say that Pastor Duffy is lying.

Pot kettle comes to mind.

Only in your febrile imagination. Dean Odle's lie is public record on video on his own website. People who lived in the area commented that the playing field did not has a flat surface as Dean Odle claimed, and pointed out that there is a standard for the curvature of playing fields so that rainwater will not pool anywhere but instead drain off to the sides. MC Toon went there in person and confirmed that the surface of the playing field was indeed curved.
Dean Odle had placed a camera on the ground so that as the person walked away from the camera, they were gradually obscured from the bottom up, and he claimed "that's just how our eyes work". Both that claim and the claim that the playing field was flat were lies and were intended to deceive the viewers that ships disappearing over the horizon was not due to the earth's curvature but because "that's just how our eyes work"
When I call out Dean Odle as a liar it is because there is clear, irrefutable evidence that he lied, which he has not as yet repented of.
You on the other hand, have called Pastor Will Duffy a liar and a scam artist but have offered no specific references where you believe he lied, nor provided any evidence to show he lied. All you have offered is your passionate opinion. You are the black kettle. There is no pot.

Strong in Him · Feb 1, 2025

Apple Sky said:
To be honest Dean is not ranting nor is he making excuses,

Yes he is. He has given a long lecture/"sermon" which supposedly debunks the whole expedition; an expedition he did not go on, despite someone paying for him to do so and despite his own words "let's do this; let's go to Antarctica."

Apple Sky said:
he's just quoting from the Bible which confirms our belief.

He's telling you HIS interpretation of the Bible and presenting it as the only truth.
Any reputable preacher would say something like, "I don't know what you think about this but it seems that ......" Or, "you don't have to agree, but my view of this passage is ....." Or "this passage seems to be saying ...... but we know there is evidence to the contrary. So what is going on and what is it teaching us?" Instead, he is saying, "the evidence was false/concocted, the witnesses are lying, my words are the real truth". And because he wins some people over by his personality, they believe him.

Anyone who really cared about the truth would test his claims - as the Bible tells us to test the spirits - and would not hesitate to challenge him if they were wrong.
And if he really cared about the truth, he'd listen, check the claims for himself and then correct himself if necessary. He hasn't done that: he is right (in his eyes) and everyone else is wrong.

Apple Sky · Feb 1, 2025

prodromos said:
ships disappearing over the horizon was not due to the earth's curvature but because "that's just how our eyes work"

But this is true ships do disappear over the horizon b/c this is what we see but if you were to zoom in in with a camera the ship comes back into full view, proving there is no curvature. Dean has proved this himself & Rob Skiba.. You can prove this by doing it yourself.

Phil G · Feb 1, 2025

Apple Sky said:
But this is true ships do disappear over the horizon b/c this is what we see but if you were to zoom in in with a camera the ship comes back into full view, proving there is no curvature. Dean has proved this himself & Rob Skiba.. You can prove this by doing it yourself.

You're still playing stupid. Ships disappear from the bottom up because of the curvature of the earth. Why didn't Odle zoom the person back in on the field? Because he know he couldn't bring him back into view by doing that.

Apple Sky · Feb 1, 2025

Phil G said:
Rubbish. He's twisting what is written for his own purposes, which is to fool people like you.

So his quotes from the Bible are all untrue ?

Apple Sky · Feb 1, 2025

Phil G said:
You're still playing stupid. Ships disappear from the bottom up because of the curvature of the earth. Why didn't Odle zoom the person back in on the field? Because he know he couldn't bring him back into view by doing that.

I will have to watch the video again to comment.

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