Flat Earth...

Widlast · Jun 27, 2016

And they do every day, ....... so ? The devil when he tricks the masses has impeccable credentials (PhDs, Doctorates, Seminaries, Congresses, Nobel Prizes, ) and even 'miracles' .
That doesn't make it true or false.

The facts make something true or false. The "fact" is that the world is a globe. People sail, fly, and otherwise travel around the world everyday. Go west far enough and you end up back where you started, you can't do that on a flat Earth. We have satellites that orbit the Earth, some in geostationary orbits, you can't do that over a flat Earth. The ancient Greeks proved the Earth was a globe 2300 years ago, and you haven't gotten the news yet?

"Man's evidence" is no evidence at all,

That is just mind boggling dumb. Man's evidence is all any of us have. If you think otherwise you are LYING TO YOURSELF.

yeshuaslavejeff · Jun 27, 2016

Armoured said:
Why aren't NASA credible, pray tell?

Well, do you believe nasa ?
I read that they believed the earth rotates....
then,
when they took measurements of the famous foucault pendulum,
during several different eclipses,
the measurements nasa took PROVED the earth does not rotate....
the very first time they discovered this (yes, by accident - they DID NOT EXPECT THIS AT ALL)
they refused to believe it,
and set out to get more measurements , from several places , from different eclipses,
concerning a foucault pendulum.....
again, then again, then perhaps yet again....
and
they were so embarrassed..... they (nasa) confirmed what they (nasa) had discovered,
and it is NOT politically correct in today's 'climate'.....

So, of course, it all got buried under millions of pages / data/ etc .....
and who can find it now ?

maybe God can.

Hieronymus · Jun 27, 2016

Widlast said:
What on Earth does the one have to do with the other?

Obvious.
Let's assume the earth's surface is actually flat, and it has a dome over it.
Than it's not just another planet, it's a specially made place.
No aliens, but angels, including the fallen ones that share our domain.
That's why 'Copernicus-ism' would be the Trojan horse for Darwinism.
The majority of people believe it already.

Armoured · Jun 27, 2016

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Well, do you believe nasa ?
I read that they believed the earth rotates....
then,
when they took measurements of the famous foucault pendulum,
during several different eclipses,
the measurements nasa took PROVED the earth does not rotate....
the very first time they discovered this (yes, by accident - they DID NOT EXPECT THIS AT ALL)
they refused to believe it,
and set out to get more measurements , from several places , from different eclipses,
concerning a foucault pendulum.....
again, then again, then perhaps yet again....
and
they were so embarrassed..... they (nasa) confirmed what they (nasa) had discovered,
and it is NOT politically correct in today's 'climate'.....

So, of course, it all got buried under millions of pages / data/ etc .....
and who can find it now ?

maybe God can.

Yeeeeaaah... I think I'd like to see a source for this story.

Hieronymus · Jun 27, 2016

yeshuaslavejeff said:
In obedience and subject to Jesus Messiah, YES< TOTALLY ! > .....

But the repeated warnings to not be deceived are addressed to Christians.

Hieronymus · Jun 27, 2016

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Well, do you believe nasa ?
I read that they believed the earth rotates....
then,
when they took measurements of the famous foucault pendulum,
during several different eclipses,
the measurements nasa took PROVED the earth does not rotate....
the very first time they discovered this (yes, by accident - they DID NOT EXPECT THIS AT ALL)
they refused to believe it,
and set out to get more measurements , from several places , from different eclipses,
concerning a foucault pendulum.....
again, then again, then perhaps yet again....
and
they were so embarrassed..... they (nasa) confirmed what they (nasa) had discovered,
and it is NOT politically correct in today's 'climate'.....

So, of course, it all got buried under millions of pages / data/ etc .....
and who can find it now ?

maybe God can.

Is this for real??
If so: WOW!

Armoured · Jun 27, 2016

Hieronymus said:
Is this for real??
If so: WOW!

Yeah.

"If".

Hieronymus · Jun 27, 2016

Armoured said:
Yeeeeaaah... I think I' like to see a source for this story.

So would i.

yeshuaslavejeff · Jun 27, 2016

Hieronymus said:
But the repeated warnings to not be deceived are addressed to Christians.

Well, yes in that there are only a few who listen and take heed....
I'm very sure that God also warns all of the nations , all of the heathen, all of the pagans, and even all of the Christians-in-name-only(pretenders),
i.e. everybody has been warned....

Hieronymus · Jun 27, 2016

Widlast said:
And they do every day, ....... so ? The devil when he tricks the masses has impeccable credentials (PhDs, Doctorates, Seminaries, Congresses, Nobel Prizes, ) and even 'miracles' .
That doesn't make it true or false.

The facts make something true or false. The "fact" is that the world is a globe. People sail, fly, and otherwise travel around the world everyday. Go west far enough and you end up back where you started, you can't do that on a flat Earth.

Well, the compass will point to the centre, which is the north, so...
I'm still a 'globalist' though, but i'm intrigued by the evidence for a flat surface.
I wonder where it will lead me.

yeshuaslavejeff · Jun 27, 2016

Hieronymus said:
Is this for real??
If so: WOW!

How does that song go ---- "memories, oh oh oh memories ...."
Like
the white papers (the official, original, government medical reports before 1950)
that were available until maybe 10 or 15 years ago....
conveniently 'gone' ?

Anyhow, no biggie..... what the Bible says is upteen times more important any way....

Widlast · Jun 27, 2016

The Earth rotates. Any idiot can prove the Earth rotates. Coriolis effect is caused by the Earth's rotation.
The "wandering path" of the planets noted by the ancients is proof of the fact that the Earth orbits the sun.
You take mindless potshots at NASA, but haven't got the whit to understand any of what they have done.
Do you think you server God by this silliness? God facepalms and Satan laughs at you for your ignorance.
People like you are why so many heathens think Christians are idiots.

Armoured · Jun 27, 2016

Hieronymus said:
Well, the compass will point to the centre, which is the north, so...

In which model of electromagnetism?

Armoured · Jun 27, 2016

yeshuaslavejeff said:
How does that song go ---- "memories, oh oh oh memories ...."
Like
the white papers (the official, original, government medical reports before 1950)
that were available until maybe 10 or 15 years ago....
conveniently 'gone' ?

Anyhow, no biggie..... what the Bible says is upteen times more important any way....

...why... would studies of the Earth's rotation... be in government... medical reports?

Sorry dude, but this is one of those "extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence" things.

Hieronymus · Jun 27, 2016

Widlast said:
The Earth rotates. Any idiot can prove the Earth rotates. Coriolis effect is caused by the Earth's rotation.
The "wandering path" of the planets noted by the ancients is proof of the fact that the Earth orbits the sun.
You take mindless potshots at NASA, but haven't got the whit to understand any of what they have done.
Do you think you server God by this silliness? God facepalms and Satan laughs at you for your ignorance.
People like you are why so many heathens think Christians are idiots.

Why are you angry (sounding)?
There are no genuine photos of earth from space to be found, or at least they're ambiguous.
Maybe it's you that chooses to let man's teachings prevail over the Word of God.
But hey, i don't know. But i do find myself on the fence on this.
Obviously we're all raised with 'globalism', so my attention is on the case for the Biblical model, which has always been the believed model since the days of old in all religions.

Hieronymus · Jun 27, 2016

yeshuaslavejeff said:
How does that song go ---- "memories, oh oh oh memories ...."
Like
the white papers (the official, original, government medical reports before 1950)
that were available until maybe 10 or 15 years ago....
conveniently 'gone' ?

Anyhow, no biggie..... what the Bible says is upteen times more important any way....

Yes biggie.
Do you have a www link to this maybe?

Hieronymus · Jun 27, 2016

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Well, yes in that there are only a few who listen and take heed....

Rather in that "...even, if it were possible, the very elect." will be deceived.

yeshuaslavejeff · Jun 27, 2016

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Well, yes in that there are only a few who listen and take heed....

Hieronymus said:
Rather in that "...even, if it were possible, the very elect." will be deceived.

Why "rather" ?
These are not contradictory, but "rather" complementary - both true, without contradiction, and entirely in harmony with ALL of God's WORD.

Hieronymus · Jun 27, 2016

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Why "rather" ?
These are not contradictory, but "rather" complementary - both true, without contradiction, and entirely in harmony with ALL of God's WORD.

It's a subtle difference.

Widlast · Jun 27, 2016

Hieronymus said:
Why are you angry (sounding)?
There are no genuine photos of earth from space to be found, or at least they're ambiguous.
Maybe it's you that chooses to let man's teachings prevail over the Word of God.
But hey, i don't know. But i do find myself on the fence on this.
Obviously we're all raised with 'globalism', so my attention is on the case for the Biblical model, which has always been the believed model since the days of old in all religions.

I sound angry because I absolutely despise stupidity, whatever the source.
There are 100s of billions of photos from space! There are dozens of satellites that do nothing but take pictures of Earth from space all day long. They have been doing this for decades. Where do you think weather data comes from? The military has mapped every inch of this planet for their uses, and remaps it all regularly to check for troop movements.
50 years ago the Army had satellites that could read the insignia on a Russian Generals cap while he stood outside in Cuba.
You'd be amazed at what they have now.

For the love of God people, get out of your mothers basement and learn something. The level of ignorance shown in this thread is just astounding.

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me:

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