Flat Earth Theory.

Apple Sky · Apr 17, 2024

Phil G said:
. And you’re a poor advert for those videos anyway, because you can’t explain or elaborate on anything in them.

I shouldn't have to, Dean does a good enough job.

Phil G · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
I shouldn't have to, Dean does a good enough job.

You can’t because you don’t understand any of it, as you’ve proven here repeatedly. It’s all lies anyway. That guy is a liar, and he knows it too.

Apple Sky · Apr 17, 2024

Phil G said:
You can’t because you don’t understand any of it, as you’ve proven here repeatedly. It’s all lies anyway. That guy is a liar, and he knows it too.

Okay so I'm a liar, Dean's a liar & according to you guys all f/earthers are liars, I reckon you should take a good look around especially at NASA & the likes of.

Strong in Him · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
That's right the earth doesn't move & all NASA's photos of earth are CGI, fake as they come. I Don't care what your astronauts say, who can believe them ? Not me that's for sure.

You can believe what you like. But you are still saying "they're all fake", without a shred of evidence.
At best, that just makes you look extremely foolish.
At worst, as you are writing on a public forum and don't know who is reading your words; you could be taken to court. And were that to happen, you'd lose your case - no evidence - and have to pay court costs etc.

Apple Sky said:
I believe in God's word only & if you'd watched the video you'd know why.

The problem is that if people take Bible verses, or parts of verses, out of context and don't study them carefully, they can make the Bible say anything.

And sometimes I'm not too sure how much of God's word you understand/believe.
I don't mean that as an insult, but in one thread I said that believing in a flat earth made no difference to salvation. You replied, something like, "it might do one day", and I answered with several verses about eternal life, not being snatched from God's hand, the Holy Spirit being a deposit of our inheritance and so on. I then said that not only did I believe in a globe earth, I had been fully vaccinated. To which you replied "at least the devil will be happy".

Seriously??
In spite of all those verses/passages that I quoted - and there are many more - you can still say that being vaccinated and believing the earth is a globe is somehow appeasing the devil?
As I said at the time; you really don't seem to understand Scripture. And you certainly don't seem to have thought about it for yourself - you're just repeating what other Flat earthers are saying on YouTube. Which is rooted neither in science, nor in theology.

I hoped you might be smarter than that.

Phil G · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
Okay so I'm a liar, Dean's a liar & according to you guys all f/earthers are liars, I reckon you should take a good look around especially at NASA & the likes of.

According to you anybody who claims the earth is a globe is a liar. And for the record, I don’t believe you are a liar but I do believe that you are seriously deluded in believing obvious liars. Your stubborn willingness to believe an obviously fake meme about Tesla proves that beyond doubt.

Strong in Him · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
I shouldn't have to.

If you're talking about proclaiming, and defending, your belief; yes, you should be able to do that.
Especially as a Christian, and especially as one who has claimed that if only people could accept a flat earth, they'd all believe in the Bible, come back to God and there'd be hundreds of conversions.

You should be able to defend that belief to atheists who may say "you want me to believe in a flat earth, when thousands of people, and hundreds photos, have said that it isn't true. If you can't believe something that we can see/measure, how do you expect me to believe you when you talk of a God whom we can't see?"
You have previously said that Flat earth is not in the Bible, and you can't prove it.

trophy33 · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
True but the earth is unmovable.

No, in reality, it is not, it orbits the sun.

Apple Sky said:
I believe in God's word only & if you'd watched the video you'd know why.

Again, Bible is neither written nor dictated by God. Its much more better to call it simply Scriptures.

trophy33 · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
I reckon you should take a good look around especially at NASA & the likes of.

Take a good look at NASA and tell us what lies they say. But with proof. If all you need is a fantasy, then do not call it a good look.

Phil G · Apr 17, 2024

trophy33 said:
Take a good look at NASA and tell us what lies they say. But with proof. If all you need is a fantasy, then do not call it a good look.

You will more than likely get a link to another flat earth video with something like “watch this & you’ll see the proof” type answer.

Apple Sky · Apr 17, 2024

Phil G said:
According to you anybody who claims the earth is a globe is a liar. And for the record, I don’t believe you are a liar but I do believe that you have been seriously deluded into believing obvious liars.

Seriously tho, NASA is fooling all of you & they are the creme de la creme for being liars. You only have to look at all their fake footage, it's just hilarious.

Astronaut admits the earth is flat.

Retired Polish Astronaut; Mirosław Hermaszewski told a reporter that the "Earth is Flat." Looks like he got a lot off of his chest. Often when astronauts get older they will come out and say things they are told not to say.

Phil G · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
Seriously tho, NASA is fooling all of you & they are the creme de la creme for being liars. You only have to look at all their fake footage, it's just hilarious.

Astronaut admits the earth is flat.

Retired Polish Astronaut; Mirosław Hermaszewski told a reporter that the "Earth is Flat." Looks like he got a lot off of his chest. Often when astronauts get older they will come out and say things they are told not to say.

Seriously though, you believe an astronaut, who you say are all liars, who went into space, that you claim doesn’t exist, and tells a joke about the earth being flat and you claim that bit is true?????

An English translation of a Polish fact check website says this:

'The general talked about what the Earth really looks like as seen from space in an interview m.in with Polityka, in December 2022. "The Earth seen from space is so beautiful and sublime that you can't take your eyes off it. It is a big blue-and-white sphere./.../" - Hermaszewski said at the time.

The general often joked about the so-called "flat earth theory", which can also be exemplified by an interview given to "Gazeta Olsztynska". In an interview with this newspaper, when asked "what does the Earth look like from space", the general replied that "everyone says that it is flat. Blue and white for that."'

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You really are seriously deluded aren’t you?

Strong in Him · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
Seriously tho, NASA is fooling all of you & they are the creme de la creme for being liars.

I wonder how many people are employed by/at NASA?
I wonder how many might be born again Christians?
And you've just dismissed the lot of them as liars. Not, deluded, misinformed or not very good at their jobs so they considered the wrong data - liars. Of course, you gave hundreds of pages in evidence to back up your claim - oh no, wait, that's right; you have no evidence at all.

Apple Sky · Apr 17, 2024

Strong in Him said:
oh no, wait, that's right; you have no evidence at all.

I have all the best evidence I need & that is God & his word.

Phil G · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
I have all the best evidence I need & that is God & his word.

No you don't. That is YOUR interpretation of the Bible. God has no part in that. God sanctioned that people who falsely claimed to speak for Him in the times of the Old Testament should be put to death. That's how serious your claims are.

It's amazing how you try to show evidence that the earth is flat, which always turns out to be complete rubbish that you can't defend, so you just revert back to your silly claims of the Bible saying the earth is flat, which you also admitted it doesn't!

Strong in Him · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
I have all the best evidence I need & that is God & his word.

God has not said; "the earth is flat, you have to believe that and it is important for your salvation."
People inspired by God wrote, poetically, about his creation, in a way that those who were alive at the time would have been able to understand.

God gave us minds to enquire, question, learn and discover more about him, his creation, his word and so on. He also gave us many gifts.
Some Christians have used their gifts, followed their preferred subject and studied science. Some scientists have discovered more about God's world and become Christians. That is a fact; there have been several scientists in all the churches that I've been in.
You seem to be dismissing all as liars. Yet if you are challenged on that, your argument falls apart quicker than a piece of tissue paper in a puddle.

You are entitled to believe what you like. You can't prove your position and the Bible doesn't teach it - but you can believe it if you like.
You are not entitled to say that all evidence to the contrary is a lie. How would you know; you have no evidence which says otherwise?

trophy33 · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
Seriously tho, NASA is fooling all of you & they are the creme de la creme for being liars. You only have to look at all their fake footage, it's just hilarious.

Astronaut admits the earth is flat.

Retired Polish Astronaut; Mirosław Hermaszewski told a reporter that the "Earth is Flat." Looks like he got a lot off of his chest. Often when astronauts get older they will come out and say things they are told not to say.

They were both obviously joking. You have, again, fallen for another badly sourced video.

pgp_protector · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
Okay so I'm a liar, Dean's a liar & according to you guys all f/earthers are liars, I reckon you should take a good look around especially at NASA & the likes of.

Well I can agree with part of your post

Apple Sky · Apr 17, 2024

Phil G said:
No you don't. That is YOUR interpretation of the Bible. God has no part in that.

So God never created the world ? WOW

Phil G · Apr 17, 2024

Apple Sky said:
So God never created the world ? WOW

Did I say that? No I did not. I said that God has no part in YOUR interpretation of the Bible. You are deliberately lying about me now.

pgp_protector · Apr 17, 2024

Phil G said:
Did I say that? No I did not. You are deliberately lying about me now.

Well they did say this just a few post ago.

Apple Sky said:
Okay so I'm a liar, Dean's a liar & according to you guys all f/earthers are liars, I reckon you should take a good look around especially at NASA & the likes of.

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