How would you know God withdrew his presence?
What statement are you trying to make with this?
It most definitely is not the same with God, you can see the sun and you can see the shade but you can not see God.We can tell the difference between standing in full sun, and standing in shade.
Same with God.
It most definitely is not the same with God, you can see the sun and you can see the shade but you can not see God.
Unless of course you are talking about 'feeling' the sun and 'feeling' the shade and 'feeling' God?
That sounds more like it...it's all about 'feelings'.
Other than the 'hunch' you have that there is a God what other senses do use to know your God is there?In the sense that all that we experience is experienced through the senses, and that feeling is one of those senses, then yes. In the sense that faith is only about an emotional response, then no. Very often faith has to act contrary to feeling. That is why it is called faith.
There are quite a few on these forums who were once believers (I'm not one of them) but are now atheists who did speak the same language as believers and fully understand how believers think and feel.In I think those who follow atheist beliefs would do well to understand that they will never be able to speak the same language as believers.
I think those who follow atheist beliefs would do well to understand that they will never be able to speak the same language as believers, and neither will we be able to speak theirs. It is like you trying to describe to me just how wonderful your mother is, when to me she is just some random woman in a crowd; I have no animosity towards her, but she is just another person.
Yes there is. But man was created, Start there.
If you are still at the point where you cannot see that the human body is designed. You will remain there. You ask for solid food, when you need milk.
Random mutations cannot turn bacteria into unicorns. Again, the human body is designed. Start there. I never said it ends there. I said start there.OK, I'll start from your premise.
1) The human body was designed.
2) A design requires a designer.
3) Therefore there is a designer.
And that's where it ends. I still haven't reached God yet. There's no logical conclusion or evidence that shows that the designer has to be the Christian God, or even a god at all. Maybe it was aliens.
Of course, this doesn't work at all, because blind insistence does not make something true. I bet you can't see the unicorns that float around everyone's heads right? Well they exist, you just can see that they do. They're obvious; they're unicorns. Kind of hard to miss. What's that? You still can't see them? Well, look harder. Therefore, flying unicorns exist. Because they told me so.
If some elements of religion were not as founded in our culture as they are, followers would end up in psychiatric wards.
Random mutations cannot turn bacteria into unicorns.
Again, the human body is designed. Start there. I never said it ends there. I said start there.
The same reason it cannot build a 747
You haven't even begun
You'll figure it out.
1) The human body was designed.It doesnt work that way. You will start at the beginning.
Sith, let me present you with a question. If God were real and you were in the position of not knowing it, would you really be interested in discovering that he is real or would you rather not know it? I ask this because the one thing Christians love about God is that He is always there to lend his ear to us, do you wish God (the real God, the designer and not whatever "Christian God" you have in mind) would speak to you at will, this is the promise that is given by Christianity, and it has successfully served that purpose for 2,000 years. When you are ready to commit to knowing God forever, you have that opportunity and all Christians will support you in this. However your attitude is not reflecting this, and I want to ask you why it is that you appear to be so keen to refute all these kind people sharing their testimony about the truth of God, is it just for fun?So you don't have an answer. That makes sense. If you start from a nonsensical position, you'll quickly get stuck. A demonstration of this idea is below.
1) The human body was designed.
2) Design requires a designer.
3) A designer exists.
Same problem. This is the conclusion. This is the end. Unless you want me to defy the laws of logic and make a massive unfounded guess, it stops here, whether you want it to or not. The nonsensical starting position leads to me being stuck.
And one final point. The ancient Israelites thought that the sacred could be contaminated by the impure, and so sought to retain ritual purity for their lives. Christianity teaches the exact opposite; when the sacred comes into contact with the profane, the profane is sanctified. In our faith, Christ clearly demonstrates that anything which is truly sacred cannot be defiled. If it could, that would make sin more powerful than God, which is nonsense.
Islam appears to return to the Israelite attitude to holiness; it is a retrograde step from what Christ himself teaches us, in other words. In Islam, as in Judaism, sin has the power to undo what God himself does. In our faith, nothing has this much power. You can take a Holy Bible, and do what you like with it; it remains Holy. That which God has done, man cannot undo.
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