Finally am beginning to understand what Howard Storm meant about sins and mistakes!

DennisTate · Dec 19, 2014

The way that Howard worded this kind of annoyed me at first:

Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience | Saved from Hell By Jesus Christ | Prophecies of the Future

They assured me that mistakes are an acceptable part of being human. "Go," they said, "and make all the mistakes you want. Mistakes are how you learn." As long as I tried to do what I knew was right, they said, I would be on the right path. If I made a mistake, I should fully recognize it as a mistake, then put it behind me and simply try not to make the same mistake again. The important things is to try one's best, keep one's standards of goodness and truth, and not compromise those to win people's approval.

"But," I said, "mistakes make me feel bad."

They said, "We love you the way you are, mistakes and all. And you can feel our forgiveness. You can feel our love any time you want to."

I said, "I don't understand. How do I do that?"

"Just turn inward," they said. "Just ask for our love and we'll give it to you if you ask from the heart."

They advised me to recognize it when I made a mistake and to ask for forgiveness. Before I even got the words out of my mouth, I would be forgiven but, I would have to accept the forgiveness. My belief in the principal of forgiveness must be real, and I would have to know that the forgiveness was given. Confessing, either in public or in private, that I had made a mistake, I should then ask for forgiveness. After that, it would be an insult to them if I didn't accept the forgiveness. I shouldn't continue to go around with a sense of guilt, and I should not repeat errors I should learn from my mistakes.

How can God look at our sins and mistakes in such a....... well.....almost positive manner?????

DennisTate · Dec 19, 2014

Now I am beginning to get it!

Julie Carter could not have became FEARLESS.... if God had not given her the freedom to make lots of mistakes..... and learn powerful lessons from every one!

facebook.com/julie.carter.5661/posts/10204948298007916
My NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE

Julie Carter:
Dear Friends THIS 100% LIFE CHANGING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE happened to me nearly 40 years ago. I thought I would share it with you...........

At the age of 20 I was in the gutters & fast going down the drain. Due to a very terrible & painful childhood, especially the very early years, I had got into drink, drugs of every kind, major crime & the final straw...prostitution. As a dealer I had plenty of bluies ( amphetamine based) This particular day I was out of my head on drink & drugs as usual. I had been hurt again by a guy and my best friend said to me...."JULIE YOU CAN'T GO ROUND WITH YOUR HEART ON YOUR SLEEVE; YOU WILL HAVE TO LEARN TO LOCK IT AWAY OR YOU WILL JUST KEEP ON GETTING HURT."....

.......I left her flat and those words kept going round and round and round in my head. I remember going home to my empty flat and realising that I couldn't lock my heart away. I figured that if we all locked our hearts away, then there would be no love coming out from our hearts and going into the world. I saw that without us putting out love, everywhere would go cold and dark. Everyone would slowly become hard and cruel and selfish. The image was terrifying......... I took more drugs to make me feel better but i just got worse and worse...............

......... I NEEDED HELP, SERIOUS HELP... I had no idea where i could get the help that i needed. I couldn't turn to God as i was a staunch atheist; during my traumatic childhood i decided there couldn't be a God. In total panic I wanted my best friend Hillary, even though it was her that had said those fateful words. I remember that night with crystal clarity. It was a freezing cold night as i got on my bike. The roads were icy but i didn't care. I got to Hillary's place but as i stood outside of the door I saw that she didn't have the HELP that i needed. I didn't know what the HELP was, but i knew what it wasn't. .................................

.............................................. I got back on my bike and went to another friend's door, a guy; the same thing happened. He didn't have the HELP! I spent hours going around the town. I never knocked on one door. I felt devastated when i realised that my friends could offer me more booze, drugs or a shag. It was all these that had got me into this panic stricken state..............

.................. I can't remember getting back to my flat. I do however remember making the decision that seeing as i couldn't lock my heart away and i couldn't stand being hurt by men anymore i had to end my miserable existence. I put my favourite album on by SUPERTRAMP and started washing down vast amounts of bluies with my favourite drink. Half a pint of cheap port or sherry mixed with half a pint of strong cider........................

.............................. As i started to feel that i was about to slip away, something in me rose and screamed out loud..."IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT PUT ME ON THIS GOD FORSAKEN EARTH, YOU HAD BETTER HELP ME NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." Nothing happened so i necked another handful of pills. The last thing that i remembered was Supertramp singing.................... "DON'T ARRANGE TO HAVE ME SENT TO NO ASYLUM."..................

................................ The next thing that i was conscious of, was that i was kind of floating inside a type of white light cloud. As i became more aware i started to sense that this white light LOVED ME. IT REALLY REALLY LOVED ME. IT NEVER SPOKE BUT I FELT IT FORGIVE ME AND IT WASHED ME CLEAN OF ALL THE BAD THINGS THAT I HAD DONE. I don't think i had any form because i didn't see myself. ........................................

............................................................... Then a being of beautiful light came and indicated with its wing that i should follow. I was taken to a garden where there was the most awesome and beautiful tree. It was laden with all different shaped and coloured fruits of light. At the foot of this magnificent tree there was a tiny chair and the angelic being pointed for me to sit in it. I remember thinking that there was no way that i would fit in it; but i did. I was told to GIVE ALL MY LOVE TO THE TREE AND THAT THE TREE WOULD GIVE ME EVERYTHING THAT I NEEDED....

............ I don't know how long i stayed there, because i became totally absorbed by the beauty and the divine nature of this TREE.....................................

.................................................. I was brought back and separated from this Tree by the voice of the angelic being. It said that it was not my time to die and that i had to go back and tell people that the answer was LOVE. I remember seeing my body laid on the floor and slipping back into it. The being told me to have FAITH and to WAIT. As i pulled myself round and up of the floor an amazing thing happened. I didn't want to die.........I WANTED TO LIVE. BY GOD DID I WANT TO LIVE. It was about 12 hours since i had took a seriously lethal overdose. I shouldn't have been alive never mind feeling ecstatic. I couldn't wait to go out. I was so full of LOVE THAT I WENT OUT AND SMILED AT EVERYONE.............

........................................................... But here is the BIG PROOF. I had no withdrawal symptoms from all the serious drugs and booze that i had consumed every single day for over 4 years. I had lost friends to drink and drugs. I will write more soon about the very unusual path that my life took after this ......... Most Enlightening Experience......................

................................................................... By the way, I DO SPEAK THE TRUTH. I DARE NOT DO OTHERWISE. Thank you for reading.

DennisTate · Dec 19, 2014

1John 4:18
"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love."

Julie Carter has became walking, breathing, living proof that this scripture..... and this principle..... is true!

Now........ I am beginning to see how God views our mistakes and sins.... so differently than we do!

timewerx · Dec 19, 2014

DennisTate said:
Julie Carter has became walking, breathing, living proof that this scripture..... and this principle..... is true!

Now........ I am beginning to see how God views our mistakes and sins.... so differently than we do!

Julie Carter's mistakes are brought by the heavy circumstances of her life and her painful childhood. God has sympathy for "sinners" like her.

As for people who had everything a good a deal for them so far and decided to beat up a puppy because their playstation 4 broke down, now that's another story. This is a situation where you will get no sympathy from God. If you're going down, you're going down.

DennisTate · Dec 19, 2014

timewerx said:
Julie Carter's mistakes are brought by the heavy circumstances of her life and her painful childhood. God has sympathy for "sinners" like her.

As for people who had everything a good a deal for them so far and decided to beat up a puppy because their playstation 4 broke down, now that's another story. This is a situation where you will get no sympathy from God. If you're going down, you're going down.

The circumstances under which people make decisions certainly does matter.

You are also correct that being kind to animals is more important than we might tend to think at first!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7674313/
The story of homeless man Angelo by Rick Joyner!

Norah63 · Dec 20, 2014

Confess your faults one to another.
Not all faults are sins, but can lead one toward sin.
Jmo.

DennisTate · Dec 20, 2014

Norah63 said:
Confess your faults one to another.
Not all faults are sins, but can lead one toward sin.
Jmo.

Yes the Promise Keepers Movement use this strategy very effectively in assisting us guys to behave better.

DennisTate · Dec 20, 2014

Julie Carter:" Hi Dennis Tate, yes we are born with free will otherwise we would be like characters in a play that god wrote. How could he feel our love for him if he wrote it in the play that we showed our love to him. If you understand my meaning. When a child comes up to you of its own free will and hugs you and says that it loves you, you feel it and it brings you joy. When my son was growing up and learning by his mistakes, I never wanted him to feel that he needed to ask me for my forgiveness for making a mistake. I never judged him for making a mistake in the first place, so there was nothing to forgive him for. I have gone through sheer terror more than once, during my journey of nearly 40yrs since my N.D.E. There have been times when i have ended up rocking in the corner feeling that God had abandoned me. Other times i felt that maybe i was totally insane. I have gone insane with the pain for brief periods following being traumatised by some very dark and dangerous men. I feel incredibly blessed to be still alive and have FAITH. I don't know if i would describe myself as being virtually free of fear. Maybe just full of Faith. When our soul is full of Faith, fear finds it difficult to get a grip. I can only hope and pray that if my Faith is greatly tested again, that it holds fast. Blessings to you Dennis." (Julie)

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Julie Carter:." Hi Dennis Tate, as you are maybe aware from my last few posts, I am currently struggling to understand where Forgiveness fits into LOVE. Howard Storm only mentions making MISTAKES here. He doesn't mention the word sin. I have shared my struggle with trying to work out if pedophiles should be forgiven, helped etc by society. Is that the most loving thing to do for the pedophile and the child/children that he/she has violated? Or should we gently and kindly put them to sleep without casting judgement on them. Thus releasing their infinite soul/spirit from a body that is only going to continue causing great harm and suffering. Thus also preventing them from incurring any more bad karma. In this light my dearest friend, may i request that you don't use this as an introduction? Could you perhaps post my story without a connection to another story. If after reading this you choose not to post my story, that is fine too my friend. Understanding what is the most loving thing to do in a situation is a long and complex journey of discovery. Love and Light to you Dennis." (Julie)

DennisTate · Dec 21, 2014

Norah63 said:
Confess your faults one to another.
Not all faults are sins, but can lead one toward sin.
Jmo.

Yes. not all faults are sins!

I was thinking a lot about this question these past few days and this morning I woke up with a verse in mind related to this.

John 15:3
"Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you."

Howard Storm had been taken up to a level.. where Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in His glorified form. and Howard's guides/ angels.. were free to explain to him about God's views of the mistakes that he would make.

This is similar to how Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus would take Peter, James and John and tell them things. that were not explained to the other disciples EAch of us can be given a different message.. depending on where we are at

What was shown to Howard about the mistakes that Howard would make.. was shown to a transformed and cleansed Howard Storm.. who had been brought up to a level of understanding and power.. where Messiah Yeshua - Jesus wasn't worried about Howard going off into the type of sins that Julie mentions here!

Howard. in a matter of minutes during his near death experience. had been shown more than he could have learned by attending a powerful and Holy Spirit filled church for a decade or so!

DennisTate · Dec 21, 2014

Julie's concerns about what was shown to Howard Storm sure fits with the Book of Enoch that states that sins like pedophilia is in a category all their own.

Julie Carter"OK. I have read ALL the holy books of the major religions. I do not put my Faith or Trust in any book. I have read many N.D.E. stories too and there are so many different experiences and views and beliefs. I put my Faith and Trust in my own connection most of the time. I am still struggling with N.D.E. stories that say that a person chose before birth to be sexually molested by her grandfather so that makes it all ok. NO NO NO I just cannot accept this. What that Grandfather did was not a mere mistake to be shrugged off lightly in my opinion Dennis. There are mistakes and then there are grave grave terrible despicable things that people do."

terryjohn · Dec 25, 2014

As parents we forgive our children things we would never forgive other people's children. We sin but we are always God's children. Other children may see God as judge but we can only see Him as a father.

DennisTate · Dec 25, 2014

terryjohn said:
As parents we forgive our children things we would never forgive other people's children. We sin but we are always God's children. Other children may see God as judge but we can only see Him as a father.

Yes.. beautifully stated terryjohn!

But. it is astonishing how many parents have ostracized their children if their kids got led to a different church denomination than the parents had brought them up in?!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7695357/
Could God be the most emotional being in the universe????
This would seem to correspond with the Creator actually having thought up and choreographed an infinite number of Big Events over infinite time in the past as some physicists seem to believe has been the case!

Investing infinite time in the creation....would certainly tend to give the Creator a greater emotional attachment to all of us than we can begin to imagine...considering how young we are.

When My Father moves His little finger, the whole universe trembles. To shake the nations with words does not impress anyone who dwells here. But when even the least of My brethren on earth shows love, it brings joy to My Fathers heart. When even the most humble church sings to My Father with true love in their hearts, He silences all of heaven to listen to them. He knows that one cannot help but to worship when they are beholding His glory here,but when those who are living in such darkness and difficulty sing with true hearts to Him, it touches Him more than all of the myriads of heaven can.

Many times, the broken notes from earth caused all of heaven to weep with joy as they beheld My Father being touched. A few holy ones struggling to express their adoration for Him has many times caused Him to weep.Every time I see My brethren touch Him with true worship, it makes the pain and grief I knew on the cross seem like a small price to pay. Nothing brings Me more joy than when you worship My Father. I went to the cross so that you could worship Him through Me. It is in this worship that you, the Father and I are all one. (Pastor Rick Joyner, chapter 15, page 85, The Vision)

TheVision The Final Quest the Call RickJoyner PDF

DennisTate · Feb 13, 2016

timewerx said:
Julie Carter's mistakes are brought by the heavy circumstances of her life and her painful childhood. God has sympathy for "sinners" like her.

As for people who had everything a good a deal for them so far and decided to beat up a puppy because their playstation 4 broke down, now that's another story. This is a situation where you will get no sympathy from God. If you're going down, you're going down.

Yes...... but I think that the Grace of G-d reaches down and down and down and down.... and grasps everybody eventually..... no far down they manage to go.............

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/yom-kippur-the-rapture-connection.7647325/

Yom Kippur/The Rapture connection?!

....."but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza'zel."(Leviticus 16:10 RSV)....

In a nutshell I have came to strongly suspect that Azazel is the fallen angel who will be somewhat like General Abner who brought the ten tribes over to King David or to Rav Shaul/Paul who repented of persecuting Christians and followers of God.

I suspect that when the fallen angel Azazel returns to the God of Abraham with his whole heart...when Yom Kippur is completely fulfilled....then a major step will have been taken toward the ushering in of a truly new era of worldwide peace where even the eating habits of wild animals like lions will be altered!

Matthew 12)

Lucian Hodoboc · Jun 15, 2019

DennisTate said:
The way that Howard worded this kind of annoyed me at first:

Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience | Saved from Hell By Jesus Christ | Prophecies of the Future

How can God look at our sins and mistakes in such a....... well.....almost positive manner?????

So mistakes mean involuntary sins?

DennisTate · Jun 15, 2019

Lucian Hodoboc said:
So mistakes mean involuntary sins?

Yes..... and voluntary as well because we usually know that we are doing wrong when we sin.

Finally am beginning to understand what Howard Storm meant about sins and mistakes!

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