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FBI knew terror attack in advance

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A news in July 2001 may reveal that FBI knew the coming hijaking.

Quote, "WASHINGTON, July 26, 2001
Attorney General Ashcroft, with President Bush (AP) "There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines." FBI spokesman (CBS) Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart."

"Earlier this week, the Justice Department leased a NASA-owned G-3 Gulfstream for a 6-day trip to Western states. Such aircraft cost the government more than $1,600 an hour to fly. When asked whether Ashcroft was paying for any portion of the trips devoted to personal business, a Justice Department spokeswoman declined to respond. "

"In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term. "

Be noticed the news was on July, 2001, two months before 911. And Janet Reno, Ashcroft's predecessor as attorney general, routinely flew commercial. She didn't enjoy the special benefit of security. Can you explain why?

When FBI is accused of failure to warn the nation of 911 attack, this news revealed they did do something to deal with coming threaten already. Though only to their boss.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml
 

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But there was no way of knowing specifically what place would be hit, or who would do it, or when it would happen, or how it would be done. The only things we knew were why, and that something might happen, but the other details were unsureof. I just think democrats made it up to try and hurt George Bush's rep. Smells like politics to me!
 
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Originally posted by sbbqb7n16
But there was no way of knowing specifically what place would be hit, or who would do it, or when it would happen, or how it would be done. The only things we knew were why, and that something might happen, but the other details were unsureof. I just think democrats made it up to try and hurt George Bush's rep. Smells like politics to me!

Because that's the way ordinary people all could get from this government. They released only what they want you know.

On December 2001, I had my opinion in message "My view of anthrax attack". Which talked about the first victim Bob Stevens is likely a revenge target of US celebrities more than a target of terrorist. Now it looks like CBS is the same. Though originally CBS was only pointing at corruption, FBI knew what it could really mean as it now does. CBS was a victim of anthrax attack. CBS Anchor Dan Rather's assistant tested positive of skin form of anthrax. Small trace was found in Rather's office.

Re:My view of anthrax attack

On Sept. 18, taking advantage of 911 WTC bombing, perpetrator mailed letters to NBC news. The anthrax inside was brown granular which might mean perpetrator intending at first not to kill but to intimidate.
Perhaps disappointed with little reaction, they did it again(on Oct. 8), this time with a military grade anthrax. The letter to Senator Daschle and Leahy contained fine, white powder which mixed with a material designed to kill. And a man, Bob Stevens, died of anthrax on Oct. 5. His death caused fear of bio-chem attack nation wide. Anthrax crisis reached its peak on about Oct. 20, then faded away. During the period, it created a situation of bio-attack horror, put a pressure on legislation to pass through "patriot Act" to let Justice Department having more police power, push media and public to support government's war policy and also gave an excuse for government to extend war to Iraq. (The "Patriot Act" was proposed on Sept. 24 and passed in legislature on Oct.24. US started war in Afghan on Oct. 7)

Rosenberg, a biologist, has testified on biological weapons before Congress, has recently published a paper contending that a government insider; or someone in contact with an insider, is behind the lethal attacks." (Excerpt from: San Jose Mercury News, page 9A,Dec. 2,2001. Topic:'Inside job probed in anthrax attack') One official (law enforcement agency) called Rosenberg theory " the most likely hypothesis".

I believe the anthrax attack was done by Federal law enforcement agency. They have motives and resources.
They are the one to be benefitted by the attack. They expanded their power by creating public's fear. They intimidated the media and legislation which are the check and balance to their power. They have the authority to access the secret lab under the name of 'security'. (like the case of Wen Ho Lee.)

And
1. The first victim is an editor of tabloid, a dislike of powerful US celebrities. His wife was the manager of apartments which had been rented to some 911 terrorists. He was possibly under FBI's surveillance. (consider thousand of aliens who even had no relationship to terrorist were detained by FBI)

2. Government released information that Atta visited crop duster aircraft. Hinted Al-quada relating to bio warfare. Matching perpetrators' intention to owe it to 911 terrorists.

3. Government released conflict information. Such like at first they said the material mixed in anthrax was bentonite, purposely to target at Iraq. Then admitted the material was silica, not used by Iraq, but US. It may proved that the perpetrators are not expert, only know little about the anthrax they were using and gave a wrong information when they making use of it.

4. At the same time, government released information that Atta made contact to Iraq diplomat. It matched the theory of bentonite, made Iraq a big suspect.

Most of these information can be only released by intelligence.

5. . Though government said first that there were 30 to 40 places had access to the anthrax and much more people could produce it by cheap equipment, it's only an excuse that they are unwill to find real criminal. The anthrax in Senator's letter is military grade. A fruit of years' research and experiment. And even in US there maybe only one secret lab carrying it. And access to it must be very strict.

6. US rejected a UN resolution condemning the anthrax attack. For what reason they did so if it's done by OBL, Al-quada, or domestic perpetrators? Unless it's done by they themselves.

7. My personal experience told it was a practice of Federal law enforcement agency. From their swift response to my comments. And I think they originally only planned one death(Bob Stevens) to raise the public attention and fear. The later four deaths were cover up to the comment " Least casualties to raise public's scare".

This elected government administration tries to hide something from people. They started a war but failed to give evidence, said that was for safety of informant. Then they want a military tribunal, what secret do they want to keep even they win a war? On Dec. 10, newspaper reported that Russian scientists had helped OBL to produce anthrax. Workshop was bombed away in war, but unknown quantity of anthrax might have been in abroad already. There was no detail, obviously let out by military or intelligence. An attemption to owe anthrax attack to terrorist when they failed to find a scapegoat of lone wolf? Perhaps that's why they limited media's report in Afghan war, and want a secret court. When US is the strongest power in the world, why there are so many things to be hided? If we have reason believe those who being sent to court are guilty, a military court only covers up corrupt government and criminal activities of it's official.

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by Tom Barrett, Editor@ConservativeTruth.org

On May 16, 2002, one of the most irresponsible “journalists” in America, Ann Compton, made a ludicrous statement on ABC Radio. She claimed that she was present when President Bush was informed of the World Trade Center disaster, and that, as she observed the president she could tell, “He knew - I could see it in his eyes.”

The New York Post had this headline that same day: “9/11 Bombshell - BUSH KNEW - Prez Was Warned Of Possible Hijackings Before Terror Attacks!” This was another example of irresponsibility disguised as journalism.

Then New York’s most beloved senator, Hillary Rodham Clinton rose on the floor of the Senate to quote the New York Post headline. “We have learned something today that raises a number of serious questions. We have learned that President Bush had been informed last year, before Sept. 11, of a possible plot by those associated with Osama bin Laden to hijack a U.S. airliner.”

For some reason she forgot to mention that her husband, equally beloved by all patriotic Americans, received far more specific intelligence reports in both 1995 and 1999 than the sketchy reports President Bush received in August of 2001. In fact, after being briefed on bin Laden’s possible plans to attack the World Trade Center back in 1995 (see the Resources section below), Bill Clinton blew many opportunities to apprehend bin Laden. In fact, Clinton spent many millions more persecuting Bill Gates, who has contributed much to the prosperity of the United States, than he did trying to stop bin Laden, an avowed enemy of our country. Senator Clinton ignores what most Americans know - that Former President Clinton allowed our country’s intelligence and military capabilities to deteriorate so far that it is doubtful anything could have prevented 9/11.

Hillary also neglected to mention that Congress held hearings on the intelligence information, which Former President Clinton ignored. She was having too much fun assassinating a real president’s character by implying (not very subtly) that President Bush deliberately suppressed information that could have saved thousands of lives.

Three other great patriots (Tom Daschle, Dick Gephardt and Joe Lieberman), piled on with similar accusations and slimy innuendo. “What did the president know, and when did he know it?” they bleated indignantly. They, along with Hillary, knew exactly what the president knew, and exactly when he knew it, because it was all part of the public record of the Congress. They knew as well that the president had received no specific threats upon which he could have acted.

Then why did the Wicked Witch of New York and the Three Stooges try to appear ignorant of the facts (not too difficult for them). Why did they pretend that the president knew all the details of the 9/11 attacks and deliberately let three thousand Americans die for some unexplained reason? This is a multiple-choice test:

1) They believed that President Bush’s high standing among the American people had waned enough eight months after 9/11 that they could get away with such blatant partisan lies and mud-slinging.
2) If one were to add every shred of character, integrity, and honesty owned by all four of these individuals together, it wouldn’t add up to one tenth of the character, integrity, honesty and love for the American people exhibited daily by our Commander in Chief.
3) They are all planning to run for president in 2004, and hoped the American people would be stupid enough to believe their ludicrous statements, thus damaging Bush’s reputation.
4) All of the above.
Those of you who chose number 4 (All of the above) were correct. You have won a free subscription to Conservative Truth.

Politics aside for a moment, I want all of you to think how all of this must have made George Walker Bush feel. Please don’t say, “He ran for the office, and he has to accept this sort of thing. It comes with the territory.” I cannot accept that. The president is human. He has feelings. He was heart-broken over the tragedies that occurred on 9/11. He was hurt, and he was crying inside, but he remained strong for us. He brought us all together in a terrible resolve to rid the earth of the vermin that did this horrendous thing to us. Imagine how he must have felt when he was accused by these despicable people of knowingly allowing the country he loves so much to be injured so terribly.

Hillary, Daschle, Gephardt, and all of the others who jumped on their bandwagon of hatred-for-political-gain are beneath our contempt. Of course, when they felt the outrage of real Americans, they back-pedaled so quickly that they almost fell over one another. “I didn’t mean that. You must have misunderstood me.” Yes, you did mean that. You own your vile statements. We didn’t misunderstand you. You misunderstood us. You thought we were too dumb to see through your statements and your motives. We aren’t as stupid as you politicians think we are.

RESOURCES:

Articles on Project Bojinka:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24515
http://www.aim.org/publications/media_monitor/2001/09/27.html

Terrorist acts, many of which Clinton ignored or responded to in a weak manner:
http://www.dssrewards.net/english/bombing.htm
http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/chronology.html

Articles on Terrorism:
The Changing Face of Middle Eastern Terrorism - Heritage.org
Bombings of U.S. Embassies in East Africa



FROM AN EDITOR: You're right, Tom. Actually, Former President Clinton had more knowledge of terrorism and did nothing about it. During his eight year term he could have done many things to boost American security. During his term the first bombing on the WTC and the attack on the USS Cole took place, as well as the bombing of the US Embassy in Nairobi. Former President Clinton and his staff knew these were all related to al Qaeda. Instead of dealing head-on with the terrorist threat, what did he do during his term that we will remember in perpetuity? He was linked to Whitewater and had numerous affairs. His terms of office cost the government untold taxpayer dollars to defend his moral lapses. No wonder Mrs. Clinton and her cohorts are trying to defect blame onto a Christian president. George W. is a good man. He has God in the right place in his life. -- Nancy Bustani, Psychologist.

ANOTHER EDITOR SOUNDS OFF: I think the real issue is that the US under Bill Clinton's leadership did not respond forcefully to the terrorists. Because Clinton failed to respond, the terrorists kept increasing the lethality of their attacks until they struck the World Trade Center the second time on 9/11. With Bush’s leadership, the response has been forceful.

Look at the pattern of attacks while Bill Clinton was president:

Feb. 26, 1993: First World Trade Center bombing. Truck bomb: 6 killed, 1042 wounded. Clinton’s response: None. There is clear evidence linking both Iran and Iraq to this atrocity. See the article, “The Changing Face of Middle Eastern Terrorism” in the Resources section above. In this 1995 article the Heritage Foundation recommended that the US deal with these states that sponsor terrorism: Iran, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Syria, Cuba and North Korea (looks pretty much like President Bush’s “Axis of evil”). We never struck back and held those regimes as responsible.

Nov. 13, 1995: A car-bomb in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills seven people, five of them American military and civilian advisers for National Guard training. Clinton’s response: None.

June 5, 1996: Bombing of the Khobar Towers military housing complex in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. 19 dead, 515 wounded. Clinton’s response: None

August 7, 1998: Bombings of American Embassies at Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salam, Tanzania, "These two cowardly attacks seriously wounded over 5,000 men, women and children. Civilized people everywhere reject such acts of random violence." The State Department is wrong when they call them "acts of random violence." These were premeditated acts of violence, but the US response was pathetic. Perhaps the real issue is that the vast majority of the 291 killed and 5,000 people were black, and that is why Bill Clinton did so little. He launched 75 Tomahawk missiles. Of note: Osama bin Laden was directly linked by the State Department to these bombings (see “Bombings of U.S. Embassies in East Africa” in the Resources section above).

Oct 12, 2000: Attack on USS Cole. 17 killed, 30 wounded. Clinton’s response: None. Thus, because Bill Clinton did not respond forcefully after the terrorists’ attacks (US struck back only once, and then only with 75 Tomahawk missiles), they kept striking again and again and again and again, until they finally attacked on President Bush’s watch last September. Then the Commander in Chief responded forcefully. This is very reminiscent of the Iranian terrorists holding US hostages for over a year while a weak president (Carter) was in office. The moment a strong man was in office, Iran released the hostages.

In my opinion, the real issue is not the failure of intelligence (spies), but the failure to use intelligence (smarts). A smart president knows that the only way to deal with a bully is to use force. Clinton tried to talk his way out of the terrorist problem. Bush is showing the terrorists that we mean business. -- Glenn Palmer, Military Historian.




Tom Barrett has been an ordained minister for 28 years. He has written for local and national publications for most of his life, and has authored several non-fiction books. He has been interviewed on many TV and radio programs, and speaks at seminars nationwide. Tom is the editor and publisher of Conservative Truth, an email newsletter read by tens of thousands weekly which focuses on moral and political issues from a Biblical viewpoint.
 
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A little note to everyone...

The US is not as techniclogically sophisticated as you probably think. The US Intelligence is not as smart and on the ball as many think. The US is not the only world power anymore, and the little world that we live in int the US is not the real-world, it's a cushy Hollywood version of the real world.

Dreaming up conspiracy theories only breeds mis-trust rather than addressing an issue directly through the proper channels like State representatives and congressman. It's doesn't matter how loud anyone yells in this country, if you have a legitimate concern, take action, write letters, call Congressman and Representatives. That is the only real way to be heard in this country.
 
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Here's the major reason why I was concerned about the information that has surfaced recently: after September 11th, Bush and the FBI repeatedly told the American people that they had ABSOLUTELY NO prior knowledge that anything could have happened, that any terrorist attacks were coming, or anything like that. This would seem to be a blatant lie, given the infomation that has recently become known.
It also looks suspicious when Bush gets everything he could possibly want out of the Sept. 11th attacks. He gets greater political power, he becomes untouchable by the democrats, he gets to add more military funding, he gets to restrict security at home in the guise of "protecting the American citizens", he gets to get rid of a government hostile to American interests (the Taliban), and he gets the perfect justification for an American presence in the middle east.
 
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Maybe we should ask President Bush if he is glad all the United States of America citzens died on 09/11.

We should as a nation have a strong defense and have tighter controls on who is enetering into this country. Isalmic fanatics are playing for keeps and this isn't all about politics.

I think it's sad when the liberal spin doctors use 09/11 as some way to discredit President Bush.

President Bush has performed admirably throughout this situation. I would say that regardless of his political party affliation.

The political pundits are always going to spin everything that happens so as to discredit the party in power.

Both sides do it. Sometimes it has merit and sometimes not.

The tragedy of 09/11 should not be used in the political infighting for it brings dishonor to those that perished that horrible day.

I have a nephew that works at the U.S.Department of State and we know that United States both home and abroad is always the possible goal of a terrorist attack.

They are taking approximately 500-600 FBI agents and transfering them to deal specifically with analysis issues concerning terrorism. The FBI was slowly dismantled during the past president's two terms in office. The FBI also has been geared more towards prosecution cases and activities; due to 09/11 The FBI's agenda is going to be modified.

President Bush should be congratulated on one tough job well done with all that has taken place since 09/11.

I am proud to be an American, a USMC Veteran and I am very proud of my president.

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I didn't study the Cole bombing and embassy's bombing and don't know if Clinton knew it in advance. But one thing I'm sure he did not benefit from these terrorist bombing. And his A.G. Janet Reno seems knew nothing of hijaking. Quote from same CBS news: "All other Bush Cabinet appointees, with the exception of Interior and Energy with remote sites to oversee, fly commercial airliners. Janet Reno, Ashcroft's predecessor as attorney general, also routinely flew commercial. The secretaries of State and Defense traditionally travel with extra security on military planes."

Intelligence always benefited from terrorist attack.(more police power and increased budget) In anthrax attack, they released an information that 911 terrorist leader Atta had made contact to Iraq diplomat. They discussed a plot of bombing US broadcast station. I think the release of information was on purpose that Iraq had connection to terrorist so there was excuse to extend war to Iraq. But this also meant terrorist leader Atta's talking was eavesdropped. And he was under surveillance of intelligence at least as early as this spring. Do you believe that intelligence knew nothing of 911 bombing in advance?
 
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Do you allow one gem clip to fall upon the vaccuum?

When you are not at your best, can you still hold onto your quality?

What should a nation achieve when its partners (with or without solidarity) have different agendas.

Should we have known that a hurricane was about to wipe out miami? Or should we have made a mandatory and forceful evacuation? Were the roads too packed to save all or was the hurricane parties stubborn?

We can see the forcast (to some degree) within the weather but, as for another man's ideals is left up to Tim Mcvey types.

Why look for blame when blame is already in your own household. How dare you proclaim that another is responsible for another outside of your own control!!!

You have the awesome chore to inflict leadership or let your own children waller in the unguided world that is living as we speak, without CHRIST.
 
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Originally posted by strathyboy
Here's the major reason why I was concerned about the information that has surfaced recently: after September 11th, Bush and the FBI repeatedly told the American people that they had ABSOLUTELY NO prior knowledge that anything could have happened, that any terrorist attacks were coming, or anything like that. This would seem to be a blatant lie, given the infomation that has recently become known.
It also looks suspicious when Bush gets everything he could possibly want out of the Sept. 11th attacks. He gets greater political power, he becomes untouchable by the democrats, he gets to add more military funding, he gets to restrict security at home in the guise of "protecting the American citizens", he gets to get rid of a government hostile to American interests (the Taliban), and he gets the perfect justification for an American presence in the middle east.

That is one twisted and sickening consperacy theory, strathyboy. And, if you honestly believe in that, I will be praying for you, brother. :(

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"It also looks suspicious when Bush gets everything he could possibly want out of the Sept. 11th attacks. He gets greater political power, he becomes untouchable by the democrats, he gets to add more military funding, he gets to restrict security at home in the guise of "protecting the American citizens", he gets to get rid of a government hostile to American interests (the Taliban), and he gets the perfect justification for an American presence in the middle east. "

Above is what I posted earlier. Can you deny that what I said is true?

I don't think that Bush had anything to do with the Sept. 11th attacks. I think that he did a good job dealing with the situation. But I also think that he gained a great deal from it, as explained above.
 
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I am from England, but I take a huge interest in world current affairs.

I am sorry, but I honestly don't believe that your President, Mr G.W Bush would have lied about something so important as this!

I have heard that Mr Bush is a sincere 'Man of God' and therefore I cannot see him being any part, of something that would so contradict the christian morals, that he holds dear!

He is also, our very own 'brother-in-christ' so instead of accusing him, you should all be praying incessantly for him and recognize the great privelege that he holds as a fellow believing christian, leading your country!

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Nah, this is Clintons work, or lack of it. Wasn't he the president who preffered hand written notes rather than the use of computers; is that why so many links failed to get where they needed to, in the FBI department, under his leadership???
Maybe if Clinton hadn't been so preoccupied with making headlines in the National Enquirer, and done the job of protecting this nation, we would have been prepared. And maybe even prevented this...
"Clintons presidency"= we were the laughing stock of the entire world yes, we were.

Oh Thank God, we were given President Bush. He is someone who can stand up, and speak out and fight in the face of danger. Who else has done that? I cannot imagine what would've happened if Gore had been mistakenly elected.
((shiver))

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Who need this terror attack and war?

When I first published this comment "FBI knew terror attack in advance", I got an intimidation:(in Newsmax.com)

Quote, "arjurg
posted May 22, 2002 05:57 PM

The FBI receives literally hundreds of 'tips' every day. I would suggest that you consider the fact that this administration is operating as if this were wartime, which it essentially is. In these times even the paranoid and conspiratorialist 'warnings' must be handled judiciously.
There is nothing untoward in John Ashcroft's using a private airplane to go on his fishing trip."

"In these times even the paranoid and conspiratorialist 'warnings' must be handled judiciously. " That's the point. In these times they could do whatever they want to do to their dislikes. And who are benefit from this attack? President got high approve rate, intelligence got extended police power, Pentagon got a fat budget. Who are the loser? Civil liberty eroded, budget turned into deficit from surpulus. And they even try to tap the social security fund which will face a financial crisis 20 years later. Yet they make this war endless. OBL is still at large. Iraq is on the waiting list. Perhaps Iran.... . Who benefit from it?
 
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kathaksung has a good point. It was confirmed that the US Intelligence did intercept the plans for the 9/11 bombings but they were forced to disregaurd them as unlikely. The United States of America is a very large country and defending it from terrorist attacks is virtually impossible.
 
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They may not know the detailed plan, but they know of the attack much more than you can imagine.

A war without evidence given

Mystery informant and evidence

If you still remember when Bush started war in Afghan, they didn't show people the evidence that OBL was behind 911. They said they had evidence, but couldn't make it public for the sake of safety of informant. Now, after eight months, where was that informant and evidence? Was he still with OBL? If so, why couldn't we capture OBL? There is another explanation, they did have evidence that OBL would attack. So there was such "threat assessment" for charted plane. And they need it like 'Perl Harbour' in WW2. They couldn't show it to people otherwise it also revealing they knew attack in advance. Perhaps that's why they want a military court. Perhaps that's why there is little news activity from Afghan. Most we got are from Army's saying. They want to bury the truth forever.
 
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