Falwell and D. James Kennedy - two liberal gatekeepers pass away

[kobuk]

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[Vambram]

Kobuk, kobuk, kobuk,
You are right, Jesus Christ is the only PERFECT example we should follow and worship. BUT;
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Jerry Falwell is NOT a liberal. By definition, when he was alive, Jerry Falwell is a FUNDAMENTALIST Christian who was also a Baptist. How dare you apparently, and seemingly appear to have the judgemental arrogance to label someone a liberal gatekeeper,
whom any of us on these forums ought to feel blessed and honored by our Savior the Lord Jesus Christ if the Savior were to use us just half as much to serve the Savior reaching out to unsaved mankind, and also born-again Christians around the world,

According to what I remember watching since I was saved in 1978, the only "partnership" that Falwell had with the RCC, or even Sung Myung Moon, was concerning political and moral issues such as pro-life against abortion, their common stances against homosexuals, the homosexual lifestyle, and the homosexual political immoral agendas, as well as perhaps allying with the RCC on other moral issues of society and culture.

kobuk, my brother, I do love you and respect you as a fundamentalist brother in Christ. I do not deny that Yashua is the only perfect example, and that the 12 Apostles also are Biblical examples we should all follow in order to glorify the Lord. However, with all respect, I believe that you are being much much too judgemental and unfortunately, it appears to me that you are also being too arrogant. I hope that I am wrong, but it surely does not appear that I am. Brother Kobuk, I know that you know that NONE are perfect, all born-again believers are sinners saved by the grace of God through faith, including yourself. Therefore, when Yashua uses your service to HIM to reach out to lost mankind and also born-again believers as effectively as Yashua did with Jerry Falwell, then your apparently judgmental posts against fellow Fundamentalists will carry a bit of authority, as far as I am concerned, brother Kobuk.

Now, can we all just get along, and serve our Savior, instead of going down the slippery slope of judgmental and seemingly arrogant criticism towards those whom faithfully strived throughout their lives to serve Yashua, obey HIM, and be used by HIM? Please? is this too much to ask, my brother?

 

[cajunhillbilly]

You are dead wrong about Dr Kennedy being liberal. He stood for conservative Biblical Presbyterianism and what you said about him and Falwell is pure slander. They have entered the gates of glory and are sharing the joys of heaven even now.

 

[FallingWaters]

Here is a touching recording of Dr. Kennedy talking about the end of his life: http://65.240.226.104:8080/

 

[kobuk]

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[Vambram]

Again, kobuk, when you come close to being used half as much by my Lord and Savior Yashua as those two men were to serve HIM, then your judgmental slander will begin to deserve some consideration by myself.

For you to assert or imply that myself or any other fundamentalist has more faith or as much faith in Falwell and/or Kennedy than the faith we have in my Lord and Savior is nothing short of insulting slander by you that I refuse to stand for without objection.
You, sir, have gone too far. I hope that you can live with yourself knowing that you gladly and willingly slander born-again fundamentalists who love and serve the same Savior that you love and serve.

 

[kobuk]

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[Vambram]

Can you possibly stop yourself from your Slander against men of God whom faithfully served Yashua and were used mightly by the Savior? Your attitude towards Falwell and Kennedy is very un-Christlike.

 

[kobuk]

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[Vambram]

What you have read about them are little more than slanderous LIES. Don't believe everything you read. If you were to hear Falwell's sermons, and research the Thomas Road Baptist Church, and Liberty University, then even a Blind man could very easily see just how greatly Yashua used Falwell to spread the gospel around the world to unsaved people everywhere, as well to help disciple and teach born-again believers.
You have chosen to believe the deceitful and despicable slander written by men who for some reason want to bring schisms within the Body of Christ.

 

[cubanito]

Falwell and Kennedy as liberal gatekeepers, and partners of the RCC and the moonies....lunacy.

uh-huh

well, beam me up Scotty, this place is certainly headed for a collision w something

Will cont to check in one in a while.

JR

 

[kobuk]

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[Vambram]

Kobukl
Stop the Slander Falwell never promoted RC'ism. What he did do was work with RC'ist together on political, social, and moral issues in America upon which there was mutual agreement. Falwell is a true fundamentalist whom never once preached or believed or agreed with the heresies within the RCC

 

[kobuk]

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[Vambram]

So, if you believe that Yashua teaches that we should have "nothing to do" with those whose religious doctrines are wrong, then that means you should have absolutely nothing at all to do with any whose doctrines do not completely agree with all of what you believe to be Truth Therefore, I expect for you to only make purchases from kobuk-like Fundamentalists gas stations, grocery stores, clothing stores, restaurants, etc, etc, etc.
On the other hand, if someone wants to have a more rational viewpoint, then the vast majority of Fundamentalists will agree with me that there is nothing wrong or sinful in standing in alliance with people whose religious doctrines are heretical, as long as it is perfectly made clear that even though we do not believe their heresies, we can still work together for moral issues such as pro-life verses pro-abortion, and such as standing together against the social and political agendas of the homosexuals.
Kobuk, you claim to have done your research, but your research is extremely one-sided. Again, I challenge you to research the Thomas Road Baptist Church, research the Liberty University, and then even someone blinded by the words of others can clearly see that your Savior and mine, the Lord Jesus Christ greatly used one of HIS servants, Jerry Falwell, to fulfill the great commission, to spread the gospel of Christ, and to also make disciples of men & women across the globe. Falwell is a Fundamentalist, and no words of yours shall ever disprove that.

 

[kobuk]

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[Vambram]

It will also be a good idea if you would research their ministries, rather than just simply accept everything that David Cloud says.

 

[IisJustMe]

They were in partnership with Sung Myung Moon and RC-ism. As well as some of the most liberal televangelists from Benny Hinn to Billy Graham.

Calling Dr's. Falwell and Kennedy "liberal" is akin to calling Dick Nixon honest. Anyone with a computer and the intelligence to created a screen name and a password can put up any kind of nonsense like that horsehockey you linked and people will actually believe it.

We Christians need to stop passing judgment on one another and start preaching the gospel of Christ as one mind, because for the world, time is getting shorter by the day.

 

[Vambram]

We Christians need to stop passing judgment on one another and start preaching the gospel of Christ as one mind, because for the world, time is getting shorter by the day.

 

[kobuk]

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