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It is not uncommon that an evangelical will accuse another Christian as believing in "salvation by works," hinting, if not outright saying that that the other is therefore not really a Christian. I am wondering where this distinction comes from. What exactly is "faith" according to such a viewpoint and how is this separable from "works"?
I will grant that I do believe that the Bible is clear that God is not keeping a tally of our good and our bad to determine who will be saved and who will not. But, at the same time, I do not see "faith" and "works" as completely separable as modern evangelicalism seems to suggest. I am interested in hearing opinions on this topic. Thank you.
check out the second chapter of James... what are you doing with your faith ? is there evidence in your life of your faith within you ?It is not uncommon that an evangelical will accuse another Christian as believing in "salvation by works," hinting, if not outright saying that that the other is therefore not really a Christian. I am wondering where this distinction comes from. What exactly is "faith" according to such a viewpoint and how is this separable from "works"?
I will grant that I do believe that the Bible is clear that God is not keeping a tally of our good and our bad to determine who will be saved and who will not. But, at the same time, I do not see "faith" and "works" as completely separable as modern evangelicalism seems to suggest. I am interested in hearing opinions on this topic. Thank you.
In this context, faith is merely belief and works merely doing good things.It is not uncommon that an evangelical will accuse another Christian as believing in "salvation by works," hinting, if not outright saying that that the other is therefore not really a Christian. I am wondering where this distinction comes from. What exactly is "faith" according to such a viewpoint and how is this separable from "works"?
I will grant that I do believe that the Bible is clear that God is not keeping a tally of our good and our bad to determine who will be saved and who will not. But, at the same time, I do not see "faith" and "works" as completely separable as modern evangelicalism seems to suggest. I am interested in hearing opinions on this topic. Thank you.
I agree! They are connected, and that connection between works / faith / grace is clearly spelt out see Ephesians 2:8-10.It is not uncommon that an evangelical will accuse another Christian as believing in "salvation by works," hinting, if not outright saying that that the other is therefore not really a Christian. I am wondering where this distinction comes from. What exactly is "faith" according to such a viewpoint and how is this separable from "works"?
I will grant that I do believe that the Bible is clear that God is not keeping a tally of our good and our bad to determine who will be saved and who will not. But, at the same time, I do not see "faith" and "works" as completely separable as modern evangelicalism seems to suggest. I am interested in hearing opinions on this topic. Thank you.
NO! We are saved BY grace THROUGH faith TO DO good works. That is clearly spelt out – see my above post.We earn our spots with God by both faith and works (Remember that chapter in Matthew? When I was hungry, you gave me to eat...).
That's a bit too technical.NO! We are saved BY grace THROUGH faith TO DO good works. That is clearly spelt out see my above post.
About your Mathew comment: Causality isnt a conjunctive relationship so that verse doesnt argue what you are suggesting it does
How is it to technical when I quoted a verse saying pretty much word for word the same exact thing?That's a bit too technical.
God's Grace is completely misunderstood in Western Christianity, so I don't expect anyone to understand what I'm saying.
It is not uncommon that an evangelical will accuse another Christian as believing in "salvation by works," hinting, if not outright saying that that the other is therefore not really a Christian. I am wondering where this distinction comes from. What exactly is "faith" according to such a viewpoint and how is this separable from "works"?
I will grant that I do believe that the Bible is clear that God is not keeping a tally of our good and our bad to determine who will be saved and who will not. But, at the same time, I do not see "faith" and "works" as completely separable as modern evangelicalism seems to suggest. I am interested in hearing opinions on this topic. Thank you.
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