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I think GrimKingGrim is saying when we master fear, there is no fear. And we have mastered our fear in this matter.
 
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Sorry, what advice was I giving? I said that we evolved on Earth, so this is where we belong. Where do you think we belong?

I think we belong, not where your religion tells you you belong, but where mine tells me.
Hopefully you agree with my process for deciding.
Should I change my belief system?
Your's prefers that misfits should all die young before those cretans reproduce.

 
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is the faith you speak of based on what the Bible teaches?
 
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There is a big difference between the wealthy West and other nations in these regards, in that there are vastly more examples of such in poorer nations.

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And there are those who are murdered, those who die young, and those
who die of cancer young. Those born to abusive parents, with defects
due to parental drug use, and some with missing organs. No difference
between east or west. They experience these same conditions listed.
 
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An why is that? It doesn't sound natural.

Because of our complex brains. Brains are pattern recognition engines. They take in data and make connections. And the human brain is so complex that it has detected its own operation, and recognised its own operation as such. We do not know the precise mechanisms, however, that lead to what humans are. Are you looking to insert a deity into that gap?

All human behaviours are natural, by definition.
 
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You must have accidentally reposted.
 
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That would be natural.
But while we allow animals to kill other animals, we restrict that inhumans.
So you're saying that civilization is not natural. Or a zoo is not natural.
Or it is. And crime is natural.....but is bad.....or is good?

Your "all natural" stand leads nowhere good.....fast.
My basis is that we were never animals and that civilization is the result
of our spiritual nature, and not connected to the natural world.
It all makes more sense.
Else I'd just kill you for disrespecting my views.
 
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You must have accidentally reposted.

If it was an accident, I wouldn't have elaborated on the original comments.

SkyWriting said:
And there are those who are murdered, those who die young, and those
who die of cancer young. Those born to abusive parents, with defects
due to parental drug use, and some with missing organs. No difference
between east or west. They
experience these same conditions listed.
 
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Where does your belief system tell you you belong?

I'm not sure about the misfits line. You should probably look up the term atheist because I think you are way off the mark.
 
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I'm not sure about the misfits line. You should probably look up the term atheist because I think you are way off the mark.

That's a term for those not fit for their environment.
Those who should die to leave room in the food chain
for the fit to reproduce.
 
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Where does your belief system tell you you belong?

Not on this current planet. Like any job, it has it's minor benefits and moments of joy.
 
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So many people spending their lives hoping for an afterlife. Do they spend their afterlives hoping for an afterafterlife?

Not if their afterlife is eternal bliss in the presence of Jesus. There is nothing more preferable than this for me. Nor do I hope for an afterlife. One does not hope to obtain that which he already possesses.
 
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That's a term for those not fit for their environment.
Those who should die to leave room in the food chain
for the fit to reproduce.

Like I was saying, you seem to misunderstand atheism, and in this case, evolution. Atheists don't necessarily believe in evolution, we are not required to do so. And evolution says nothing about who should die.
 
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Not on this current planet. Like any job, it has it's minor benefits and moments of joy.

What planet do you belong on? Are you originally from that planet?

What job are you here to accomplish?

What do you consider the minor benefits of being on Earth, and what are your moments of joy being on Earth has brought you?
 
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Not if their afterlife is eternal bliss in the presence of Jesus. There is nothing more preferable than this for me. Nor do I hope for an afterlife. One does not hope to obtain that which he already possesses.
Do you think that the level of conviction you have for your religious beliefs is supposed to indicate, in some mysterious manner, their veracity?
 
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What planet do you belong on? Are you originally from that planet?

What job are you here to accomplish?

What do you consider the minor benefits of being on Earth, and what are your moments of joy being on Earth has brought you?

The Kingdom of Heaven
 
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The Kingdom of Heaven

He seems very unhappy here on Earth, I wonder why he doesn't head there now? I'm quite serious, if I was unhappy where I was, and I knew I could move to place where I would be happy all the time, I would move immediately, and bring the family with me. Who wouldn't?
 
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