It has NOTHING to do with
paranoid schizophrenia, as I explained in my previous post. I am not paranoid. I do not have paranoid disorder. I do not have mental illness. I'm not trying to be rude and I think you mean well, but I explained this in my earlier post and the message doesn't seem to be getting through. We need to get beyond this narrow secular perspective, which says that "hearing voices" must always mean paranoid schizophrenia or mental illness. Not so. It's also possible to hear voices from a spiritual source (which is where demonic voices come in). This is clearly my source. Please stop attaching the negative stigma of "paranoid schizophrenia" to me.
One good example of people "hearing voices" is the family of Dean and Jennifer Moe (a family of 9 children). For about a year, the whole family was being tormented by demonic voices and seeing demonic spirits in their parsonage. It made the children scared enough, that they all slept with their parents. Did the children have a paranoid disorder? Was the family schizophrenic because they were hearing voices and feeling some anxiety about it? No, they were being haunted by demons in their home, just as some individuals like myself have been "haunted" in their personal lives. Here's the video that tells their story, which I share to make a point:
The Haunted Parsonag: Delivered from the Demonic - CBN.com - YouTube
I will also add that I'm not the only person who has claimed to hear spirits through other sounds. The very popular tv series Ghost Adventures, allegedly uses white noise (which is similar to the sound of a fan) to pick up the voices of the spirits. I didn't know about this, until after I heard demonic voices from my own fan. Would the guys from Ghost Adventures also be paranoid schizophrenic, for claiming to hear spirit voices from white noise? I'm only asking this to make a point. Perhaps it would have been better if I didn't get into the details of hearing the voices in the first place, and only said I was having demonic attacks.
When I said the occult was a natural progression from pornography, I was speaking for my own self, not for everyone. That has been my real life experience, and the mixing of the two had nothing to do with paranoid schizophrenia. I hadn't even heard any "voices" before I started doing that. It's not a puzzle to me at all how one could lead to the other, for two very good reasons. 1. Pornography and the occult both share something in common. They are both evil and fueled by evil spirits, and lead to further evil. 2. Modern culture often glorifies the devil or demonic in sexual terms. A tv advertisment that shows a serpent wrapped around a naked women, comes to mind. Different tv shows or music videos, also show the dark side in a sexually tempting context. The use of the words like "wicked" (associated with the devil) to refer favorably to fornication, porn sites that use symbols of the devil to promote themselves, etc. In such examples the devil and demonic realm is a symbol of the sensual or sources of temptation to give into (though typically seen as a myth). So in light of that, fantasy/porn could potentially lead someone into the occult, as it did in my case. They are not total opposites. They can easily work together.
A huge important part of my sexual history (that can't be overlooked) was being molested three times at age 13/ around 13. It was an older man who performed a sexual act on me. One of those times was at a Christian Campout in a tent, while the other boys were sleeping. The man who molested me, was himself molested as a boy, and in return at least one of the boys he molested became a child molester and got involved in child pornography. As for me, the whole child molester thing never got passed on to me. I never had a desire to go in that direction (thankfully). But I think to some degree, it influenced the other kind of sexual extremes I would later get into (including the occultic sexual stuff). The molestation may have been some of the ugly fuel that helped me progress from the "normal" worship of porn and the female body to religiously worshiping a sex goddess, the demons of sexual desire, the temptress of Eden, etc. A puzzling progression? I don't think so. It's just probably not a progression that most people make, but there is a logic to it (as I explained in the earlier paragraph).
As former porn actress Shelly Lubben said about her first experience of doing porn "
Right when I walked in, it's like this satanic dark anointing just fell on me. It was creepy. It was dark. It was eerie. It was nothing like prostitution. It was like I knew I was in the devil's territory." In other words, pornography has more demon juice in it than most people realize. Yes, it's a work of the flesh, but so is witchcraft (according to the bible).
Thanks. I think Remny is a good guy too, but we have a very different way of looking at things.
Doubtless it was my own fault, but you misunderstood my 'secular' take. I didn't say your experiences were caused by a paranoid schizophrenia, but postulated the possibility - admittedly at some length - that it might have played a role, as Remny had suggested. I'm a little too prone to scan what I'm reading.
In fact, I have had some very unusual demonic experiences, myself, for example, twice, like your uncle, I believe you said, having ghostly hands at my neck, trying to throttle me - once down South and once here in Edinburgh.
It was strange to read your account of demons using existing sounds, as a few months ago, late at night in bed, sudden gusts of wind outside were very strong, and I felt sure it was another sound - for the life of me I can't remember what, but maybe the voice of someone shouting at the front door - but it sounded EXACTLY like it, and I wondered if that was the cause.
But others, too, at least as strange and unambiguous as the throttling hands. Not this Lent, but last last year, during the final week, I had two experiences of a poltergeist, both cases, small objects being thrown hard, against the wall a few feet away, in one case, and the other a small plastic-rimmed mirror flung from a hook onto the floor, over the bathroom sink I was standing at.
The weirdest by far was an invisible creature suddenly trying to copulate with my backside, in the middle of the night, when I was in the army Malaysia. I suddenly woke up to find myself still stretched out flat, but six inches or more above the bed, seemingly rigid, as in a conjuror's trick you sometimes see in photos or films. I clenched my buttocks with all alacrity! Because it was so hot, we only had a single sheet over us, but I think the weight of partly tucked in blankets would make it impossible here. At least I hope so. I've also had my backside touched a few times while standing at the sink. I think I can be forgiven for hoping it was a female ghost.
Another time, I woke up to see what looked like a dull, metallic, yellow kind of glow moving away from my body, apparently having tried unsuccessfully to enter my heart (judging from another diabolical experience) and over my wife's body, completely ignoring her. I was struck by the fact that its seemed to move in what seemed like an unnaturally straight line.
Then I remembered that I'd seen a woman on a TV programme on the subject of ghosts, hauntings, etc, recounting how she had seen this kind of glow moving up a stair-case, and remarking how it had gone in a straight line. Also in Ezekiel, he reported this vision in which he saw angels (good ones) moving in straight lines.
It occurred to me that we, human beings, automatically factor in the forward and sideways movements of our bodies as we walk in what we normally consider a straight line; also we slow down slightly and speed up again slightly with each pace. But they move at a constant speed as well, which also makes sense. Of course, pure spirits, unless assuming human or animal form, would not be subject to any, even tiny, movements caused by a corporeal gait like ours.
On the occasion of a similar experience, I dreamt a great devil in the form of a dragon swooped down and was trying to take my soul. Idiot that I am, and it seems Heaven realises it, instead of calling out, "Jesus!", I was casting about in my mind whether to pray to St Jospeh Terror of Demons or St Michael the Archangel! Suddenly, I realised I had no time left for theological niceties and was reduced to bawling out, "HELP!" And that help, I am pleased to relate, was instantaneous.
Another strange thing was, I must have shouted loudly in the spirit, as my wife, who is a light sleeper, didn't hear me, nor I would imagine would anyone else have; particularly as it ties in with one of the many experiences of ghosts by lads in my troop, when I was stationed in Germany.
Some years ago, now, my wife and I would suddenly be woken up in the middle of the night by the sound of our TV blaring out quite loudly. That set required only one handset to switch it on, and we discovered that the way to avoid it, was to make sure the handset was pointed right away from the screen.
At other times during the day, the screen would kind of freeze, while the speaker emitted a very harsh kind of noise. I found that saying brief prayers for the person's soul was effective in stopping it. And perhaps longer prayers for him or her paid off in the long term as well, as they seem to have stopped all together.
But what an infinite variety there seems to be of human nature, personalities. A previous house my mother lived in, in West Australia, was haunted by a ghost in monk's habit. In fact her dog wouldn't go in one part of it.
My mother just felt her bottom being pinched while she was ironing (runs in the family, it seems), but my nephew, in his early teens then, I should think, used to see him and wasn't in the least scared by the apparition. I don't know whether it was the first time they had made each other's acquaintance, but when the ghost asked him, "What are you doing here?" he replied, "I might ask you that!"
PS: In that earlier post, '....you will have issue' should have read, '....you will have issues!'