Log in
Register
Search
Search titles only
By:
Search titles only
By:
Forums
New posts
Forum list
Search forums
Leaderboards
Games
Our Blog
Blogs
New entries
New comments
Blog list
Search blogs
Credits
Transactions
Shop
Blessings: ✟0.00
Tickets
Open new ticket
Watched
Donate
Log in
Register
Search
Search titles only
By:
Search titles only
By:
More options
Toggle width
Share this page
Share this page
Share
Reddit
Pinterest
Tumblr
WhatsApp
Email
Share
Link
Menu
Install the app
Install
Forums
Discussion and Debate
Discussion and Debate
News & Current Events (Articles Required)
Explosions in Brussels
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="LoveBeingAMuslimah" data-source="post: 69456676" data-attributes="member: 323708"><p>That's not evidence of his "Ottoman vision for Turkish expansion". I had much more evidence of Kurdish expansion as PKK's vision when I told you that they are razing villages, displacing its Arab inhabitants, and changing the names of ethnically Arab villages that they conquer into Kurdish ones. Furthermore, they tried to declare their own Kurdish region of the places they have taken control of (including these previously Arab areas).</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I even said in that post that it was Amnesty International (and I've provided the same link once before that). A user on quora defending the YPG (with false information) and blaming the victims does not negate the fact that PKK/affiliates are committing ethnic cleansing. The Amnesty report mentions that there was no justifiable reason for the razing of entire villages and forced displacement to occur (and the quora user even gives another amnesty report which actually contradicts him because it talks about the total demolition of villages as well as forced displacement). Just claiming ISIS was present isn't enough. They can say aliens were inhabiting the entire village and it seems like people would believe them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Shi'a militias fighting against ISIS have done things just as bad, if not worse, as ISIS. They behead. They burn civilians alive. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Appeal to authority without any evidence cited by that authority. If genocide against Christians was taking place in Syria, it would be easy to demonstrate how. </p><p></p><p>On the other hand, <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/19/a-damning-indictment-of-syrian-president-assad-s-systematic-massacres.html" target="_blank">I have provided you evidence</a> of how Assad's regime and its allies are committing genocide of the Sunnis. Only the blind or those who do not want to be legally obliged to do anything about it in Syria will deny it. I have also provided evidence of the YPG/affiliates razing entire villages and forcing inhabitants to leave. But you seem to try to ignore these things and play them down despite how well-documented it is. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And how does committing ethnic cleansing against the Arab inhabitants (and even Kurdish ones, including those who disagree with their terrorism) help them in their war for existence? How does their "war for existence" justify their ethnic cleansing?</p><p></p><p>As for Amnesty, it has accused the YPG/affiliates of war crimes (by razing entire villages and forcibly displacing inhabitants). It also says, "..the majority of residents affected by these unlawful practices are Arabs and Turkmen.."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1.) Please do not dismiss and trivialize the body count. It is an insult to the ~200k civilians dead at the hands of the regime/allies to say "it's not about the body count." </p><p></p><p>2.) What cause? The cause of a brutal dictator who is only in power by force (and through hilarious sham elections) because his father had a coup and quashed an uprising against him? The cause of wanting to kill the Sunnis of the country? Yeah, not a good cause either. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1.) Which non-combatant Shias and Yazidis are they killing in Syria? </p><p></p><p>2.) Assad is killing Sunnis with no regard for their humanity.</p><p></p><p>3.) The majority (~70-80%) of the government's documented victims have been civilians whereas the rebels mainly target the regime/allies (who comprise most of those dead at the hands of the rebels). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's ridiculous. Would you have advised Jews or Christians against Hitler to support him because you are more likely to die opposing him? Why don't you advise the Christians in Iraq to support ISIS because they are more likely to die opposing it? Or tell the Sunnis (the most capable at stopping ISIS) to stop fighting ISIS because they are more likely to die opposing ISIS than supporting it? </p><p></p><p>I think the Syrians have shown that they would rather die free after all these years of being slaughtered yet still insisting on his removal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LoveBeingAMuslimah, post: 69456676, member: 323708"] That's not evidence of his "Ottoman vision for Turkish expansion". I had much more evidence of Kurdish expansion as PKK's vision when I told you that they are razing villages, displacing its Arab inhabitants, and changing the names of ethnically Arab villages that they conquer into Kurdish ones. Furthermore, they tried to declare their own Kurdish region of the places they have taken control of (including these previously Arab areas). I even said in that post that it was Amnesty International (and I've provided the same link once before that). A user on quora defending the YPG (with false information) and blaming the victims does not negate the fact that PKK/affiliates are committing ethnic cleansing. The Amnesty report mentions that there was no justifiable reason for the razing of entire villages and forced displacement to occur (and the quora user even gives another amnesty report which actually contradicts him because it talks about the total demolition of villages as well as forced displacement). Just claiming ISIS was present isn't enough. They can say aliens were inhabiting the entire village and it seems like people would believe them. The Shi'a militias fighting against ISIS have done things just as bad, if not worse, as ISIS. They behead. They burn civilians alive. Appeal to authority without any evidence cited by that authority. If genocide against Christians was taking place in Syria, it would be easy to demonstrate how. On the other hand, [URL='http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/19/a-damning-indictment-of-syrian-president-assad-s-systematic-massacres.html']I have provided you evidence[/URL] of how Assad's regime and its allies are committing genocide of the Sunnis. Only the blind or those who do not want to be legally obliged to do anything about it in Syria will deny it. I have also provided evidence of the YPG/affiliates razing entire villages and forcing inhabitants to leave. But you seem to try to ignore these things and play them down despite how well-documented it is. And how does committing ethnic cleansing against the Arab inhabitants (and even Kurdish ones, including those who disagree with their terrorism) help them in their war for existence? How does their "war for existence" justify their ethnic cleansing? As for Amnesty, it has accused the YPG/affiliates of war crimes (by razing entire villages and forcibly displacing inhabitants). It also says, "..the majority of residents affected by these unlawful practices are Arabs and Turkmen.." 1.) Please do not dismiss and trivialize the body count. It is an insult to the ~200k civilians dead at the hands of the regime/allies to say "it's not about the body count." 2.) What cause? The cause of a brutal dictator who is only in power by force (and through hilarious sham elections) because his father had a coup and quashed an uprising against him? The cause of wanting to kill the Sunnis of the country? Yeah, not a good cause either. 1.) Which non-combatant Shias and Yazidis are they killing in Syria? 2.) Assad is killing Sunnis with no regard for their humanity. 3.) The majority (~70-80%) of the government's documented victims have been civilians whereas the rebels mainly target the regime/allies (who comprise most of those dead at the hands of the rebels). That's ridiculous. Would you have advised Jews or Christians against Hitler to support him because you are more likely to die opposing him? Why don't you advise the Christians in Iraq to support ISIS because they are more likely to die opposing it? Or tell the Sunnis (the most capable at stopping ISIS) to stop fighting ISIS because they are more likely to die opposing ISIS than supporting it? I think the Syrians have shown that they would rather die free after all these years of being slaughtered yet still insisting on his removal. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Discussion and Debate
Discussion and Debate
News & Current Events (Articles Required)
Explosions in Brussels
Top
Bottom