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Exactly, which is why they started in Syria against the Assad regime. Lovely bit of re-writing history.
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Exactly, which is why they started in Syria against the Assad regime. Lovely bit of re-writing history.America is the reason that ISIS exists.
And you know this how? In fact, it is the PKK's real interest in Syria that has to do with their vision for Kurdish expansion (under their rule; they have threatened to kill Kurds who criticize them). I provided you a link by Amnesty before showing that they have been destroying entire villages for no justifiable reason (displacing the Sunni Arab inhabitants). This coupled with the fact that they're changing the names of villages they capture (ethnically Arab) into Kurdish names show what their intent is. Just in case you didn't read about their war crimes:
Again, why? Maybe it's because you only pay attention to the news coming out of mainstream media, but if you were to pay attention to what goes on in the ground, you'd see numerous videos of those Shi'a militias behaving the exact same way or worse as ISIS. The only difference is that they're supported by the West (because they're fighting ISIS) and Assad/allies (because they're fighting Syrian Sunnis) despite their behavior against civilians.
So it shouldn't be so hard to provide evidence of the genocide against Christians in Syria at the hands of Syrian rebels. Of the 56 massacres I mentioned earlier, 1 of those massacres that displayed sectarian tendencies killed a total of 44 people (including 10 Christians). That doesn't sound like a genocide, especially since it wasn't repeated. I wouldn't put genocide past ISIS, but again, that means that the rebels are the best option against them since Assad and ISIS often ignore one another and even benefit from each other.
What about the PKK Syrian branch committing ethnic cleansing? Is that an example of their maturity as a people and their readiness for nationhood?
So it's unacceptable to work with ISIS because they're deluded murderers but it is acceptable to stand with regime/allies even though they have killed far more civilians than ISIS could even dream of killing.
Basically the point of your post seems to be that the threat of a possible genocide against Christians without much evidence is absolutely unacceptable and we cannot back those who you think would commit genocide against them (without proof) BUT an actual genocide against the Sunnis with a lot of evidence is sad, but hey, it happens and we have to embrace the worst option, the one committing genocide, in this conflict because of some warped logic?
Exactly, which is why they started in Syria against the Assad regime. Lovely bit of re-writing history.
Turkey Official Says Belgium Was Warned Of Suspected Attacker’s Terror Links
A senior Turkish official told BuzzFeed News that Turkish authorities warned Belgium that Ibrahim el-Bakraoui had links to ISIS as early as this summer but the Belgians declined to act.
After being detained in the city of Gaziantep, near the Turkey-Syria border, Ibrahim el-Bakraoui was sent to the Netherlands rather than to Belgium at his request, the senior official said, saying that Turkey allowed EU citizens to choose the country to which they will be deported.
The official said that on July 7 and July 14, the Turkish government notified the Belgians of its belief that el-Bakraoui had links to terrorism. Belgium replied on July 20, the official said, saying that they had detained him earlier but had released him for lack of evidence.
The official said that Turkey wrote back to Belgium to insist that el-Bakraoui was considered a foreign fighter with links to Syria. He said that his government was considering releasing the diplomatic notes between the two countries, but were holding back out of respect for the people of Belgium.
“This is a time for solidarity,” the official said, “not the blame game.”
—Borzou Daragahi
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Turkey also tried to warn France about one of its attackers.
Islamic State started out in Syria well before the US had left Iraq and Iraq was relatively stable under the US forces, but once they were taken the chaos in Syria spilled over to Iraq.You are wrong. ISIS was founded from unemployed security forces from Iraq. Their leader is a former security officer from Saddam. Bush fired all military staff when he illegally conquered Iraq. They later on moved to the syrian theater and get weapons from USA to fight Assad in another US based revolution. The complete destabilisation of the middle east is the work of the USA. Thanks for that.
Civil police action and criminal prosecutiob. I say this with 20/20 hindsight, but there it is.
You are wrong. he was sued because he belonged to banned group "Shariah4belgium". He left for syria in 2014.
You should also not forget that in August 2014 in the nuclear power plant of Doel someone manually sabotaged the main turbine. The result was a broken main turbine and an emergency shut down of the reactor.
They let ISIS members work in their nuclear power plants out of political correctness.
What would have been an appropriate reaction to 9/11?
Islamic State started out in Syria well before the US had left Iraq and Iraq was relatively stable under the US forces, but once they were taken the chaos in Syria spilled over to Iraq.
Again, this is just not true.
He left in November 2012. When his name fell during the court case against Shariah4Belgium, he was already in Syria. He never returned and got himself killed over there.
His pregnant wife died in Syria in 2013.
http://www.brusselstimes.com/belgiu...er-worker-at-doel-nuclear-plant-dies-in-syria
"...who worked as a technician at Doel nuclear power plant for years before departing for Syria in November 2012."
Yes. And it is unkown who did it.
It certainly wasn't Ilyass Boughalab, as he was already in Syria for 2 years at that time.
No, at no point was a known jihadi working in that power plant.
Stop spreading lies.
I agree and I lament what I see as the unwillingness of many to recognize the pernicious appeal of that momentary feeling of satisfaction that accompanies revenge.But invading Afghanistan was futile and had paved the way for Islamic extremism to grow, not shrink. Bombs and guns can't defeat an ideology (unless you go down the route of complete scorched earth, eridication and genocide and remove all trace of that ideology, which to turn to those methods, makes monsters of the people carrying out), they only make it stronger. It was a reaction based on getting "justice" and making those "accountable" pay, never works, a moment of feeling you've avenged something is quickly over and the problem is worse.
Inclined to agree here, too. Do you agree with me that CNN (and other news agencies) only make things work by their over-the-top coverage of terrorist actions?The hard line Islamists are Sociopathic/Narcissistic in nature and the best way to deal with a Sociopathic/narcissistic traits is to ignore them, once you give a reaction, they then have a platform to use against you
Inclined to agree here, too. Do you agree with me that CNN (and other news agencies) only make things work by their over-the-top coverage of terrorist actions?
The way to deal with these people it too flatly say they're evil,
Before 9/11 nobody even thought of Muslims hardly, 9/11 was about drawing the west into wars, which in turn makes more Muslims join their world wide cause.
But while the US where there they basically had no power, but during the Civil war in Syria they had power. Their rise to power started in Syria and for all purposes that is where it was formed, otherwise without any power it would just some aimless group, but Syria was where it's power was built. Without Syria descending into chaos, Islamic State would be simply part of Al Qaeda not a separate group with all this power they now have, which thankfully is diminishing. Without Syria Islamic State would be nothing. Without the the USS withdrawal they would be nothing.wrong. ISIS was founded in Iraq. It´s precedessor was al Sarkawi. ISIS was then build around his former group.
[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].......seriously???? No one thought of Muslims before 9/11???
I don't even know how to respond to this stunning, breathtaking lack of historical perspective. Face palm.
Do you agree with me that CNN (and other news agencies) only make things work by their over-the-top coverage of terrorist actions?
In the spirit of activism, do you think there is anything we the masses can do to discourage news media from revelling in the bloodshed, thereby furthering the goals of the terrorists?Totally. There is a massive lack of proportion in the reporting (UK channels too) which does no-one any good except terrorists........
But while the US where there they basically had no power, but during the Civil war in Syria they had power. Their rise to power started in Syria and for all purposes that is where it was formed, otherwise without any power it would just some aimless group, but Syria was where it's power was built. Without Syria descending into chaos, Islamic State would be simply part of Al Qaeda not a separate group with all this power they now have, which thankfully is diminishing. Without Syria Islamic State would be nothing. Without the the USS withdrawal they would be nothing.
Yikes. Consider the parable of the Good Samaritan. He took a risk in helping the beaten man - he put his own self-interests behind those of the injured Jewish man. And, more to the point in this context, Jews and Samaritans hated each other. I suggest Jesus' point is clear: we need to risk to show love, even to our enemies. If thousands are fleeing a war, we need to help them, and if that involves some degree of risk I would like to think I am willing to accept that.
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