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There is an old saying:-Eve didn't like what Lemech said, is that another name for the serpent?
No she didn't eat from the tree, God commanded them not to.
But it seems her desire be like God overwhelmed her. Who knows what feats Adam and Eve saw God performed, and she wanted to be as him, sounds sort of familiar.
Then what is the point of these verses in Genesis 9?The Bible also speaks of God giving animals for mankind to have dominion over. And there is no reason to exclude consumption from that.
Genesis 9:1-5 said:Then God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. The fear of you and the terror of you will be on every animal of the earth and on every bird of the sky; on everything that crawls on the ground, and on all the fish of the sea. They are handed over to you. Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I have given everything to you, as I gave the green plant. But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. I certainly will require your lifeblood; from every animal I will require it. And from every person, from every man as his brother I will require the life of a person.
Verse 2:9?Then what is the point of these verses in Genesis 9?
Chapter 9 follows a typical dietary prohibition syntax:Then what is the point of these verses in Genesis 9?
I thought I have already said that the Bible does not mention what process God used to form man, and if he did we wouldn't understand it. If not that's something I do often say.Dirt is formed from all sorts of living things.
The Bible is clear it doesn't mention the process of which God formed man. Man was not formed out of a dirt devil, whipped up like a presto man.
I was reading what you said until I came to the point where you said mice is living too. You know exactly what it means when it says Eve is the mother of the living. And it's not talking about any form of animal other than the homo sapien the human man kind. Anyway after that I stopped reading whatever you had to say not interested goodbye.And Jesus is the last Adam or the second man, but this isn't about biology. Was Jesus temporally the second man to exist? No. Was Jesus the last man to exist? No. Not biologically.
1 Corinthians 15:45-48 ESV
[45] Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. [46] But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. [47] The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. [48] As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven.
Mice are living, is Eve the mother of mice too?
Genesis 4:20-21 ESV
[20] Adah bore Jabal; he was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock. [21] His brother’s name was Jubal; he was the father of all those who play the lyre and pipe.
And Jubal was the father of all those who play the pipe. I play the pipe, is Jubal my father too? No, that's not the point.
This isn't a biology textbook. It's not about human origins. It is about their immediate family. It's not about humanity as a whole. Indeed, as noted before, Adam and Eve are never even mentioned in chapter 1 with the creation of humanity.
Their names are Hebrew words. Hebrew isn't a divine language. It was given to them by the Isrealites that spoke that language and wrote Genesis in that language.
The existence of the tree of life is only further evidence of the inherent mortality of humanity, otherwise there would be no reason for it.
The Bible actually tells us how long Adam lived in Genesis 5:5.Adam upon being created by GOD and was initially in a state of innocence and perfection in the Garden of Eden. He was created to live forever, which suggests that he was in a condition of immortality while in Eden.
However, when Adam and Eve disobeyed God by eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, both of them were punished with mortality when GOD tells Adam that he will return to the ground from which he was taken.
As a result, if we consider Adam's state of being in Eden as immortal, it is challenging to calculate how long he lived in the garden starting from the point when he was created to the time when he fell.
From scripture, Adam's genealogies provide a timeline that leads to the conclusion of a young Earth, typically around 6,000 years old. However, if one considers the possibility that Adam lived for a very long time in a perfect, immortal state before disobedience, this could imply a much longer timeline for humanity (and an older earth) before the onset of mortality and the experiences described later after the serpent deceives Eve.
Thoughts?
HiI thought I have already said that the Bible does not mention what process God used to form man, and if he did we wouldn't understand it. If not that's something I do often say.
Whatever the dirt devil is to you whipped up like presto man, let it be so for you.
If He did we wouldn't understand it, that makes zero sense, of course God would mention it so people could understand it.I thought I have already said that the Bible does not mention what process God used to form man, and if he did we wouldn't understand it. If not that's something I do often say.
Good point! I wonder why there are so many different theologies in the possible hundreds of denominations and thousands sub denominations and many different places of the Bible on scriptures. And why was Job told the things he were by God.If He did we wouldn't understand it, that makes zero sense, of course God would mention it so people could understand it.
As God makes clear in Genesis, the death is a spiritual one, not a physical one. He tells Adam that he will die the day he eats from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Adam eats, and yet lives on physically for many years thereafter. If God is truthful, then the death He mentioned cannot be physical death.But there cannot be death before the fall as death was the result of the fall.
That was not my experience when an angel woke me up at 4 am in the morning over a comment i posted on a forum 13 years ago.Creation groaning together is not equivalent to death. And entropy is a scientific term of modern times, the Bible and sin and the fall have nothing to do with entropy or vice versa
Unless Adam's inevitable physical death was the physical death that the fall brought. The question is before the fall were Adama and Even meant to die physically.As God makes clear in Genesis, the death is a spiritual one, not a physical one. He tells Adam that he will die the day he eats from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Adam eats, and yet lives on physically for many years thereafter. If God is truthful, then the death He mentioned cannot be physical death.
That's not what God said. If God is truthful, that death happened the same day. So we know it can't be a physical death.Unless Adam's inevitable physical death was the physical death that the fall brought.
maybe remove the word perhaps...Perhaps the material became the spiritual when God breathed His spirit into man. His ability to decern between the material and spiritual. Then came the spiritual death when Adam and Even sinned.
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