That would be very good advise for you to follow. I am glad you were able to point that out.
You should also read the section on how to show respect for others.
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That would be very good advise for you to follow. I am glad you were able to point that out.Could you, Please, read the statement of
purpose for this, the PHYSICAL SCIENCE forum, and abide by it?
As far as humans are concerned, if there's absolutely no evidence that something happened, then as far as we're concerned it didn't happen, and all claims concerning such events must, by definition, be fabricated - including guesses that God might have done some such thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯And therein lies the disconnect between science and theology.
I'm sure even you guys will admit that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
That's not necessarily true, because all evidence goes away with time sometimes, with some things, or with many things actually, etc, and this is not necessarily evidence that a thing never happened, or was made-up, or was fabricated necessarily, etc.As far as humans are concerned, if there's absolutely no evidence that something happened, then as far as we're concerned it didn't happen, and all claims concerning such events must, by definition, be fabricated - including guesses that God might have done some such thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As far as humans are concerned, if there's absolutely no evidence that something happened, then as far as we're concerned it didn't happen, and all claims concerning such events must, by definition, be fabricated - including guesses that God might have done some such thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
God is a God of justice and He can only follow HIs own laws of physics. Miracles are not a violation of natural law as some people suggest. God can not do anything contrary to Himself. For example, He can not lie, cheat, steal and so on. There are lawless people today who feel we do not have to follow the law of God and they are wrong.If God could do such a thing,
Events in the world leave evidence, whether you can detect it or not.That's not necessarily true, because all evidence goes away with time sometimes, with some things, or with many things actually, etc, and this is not necessarily evidence that a thing never happened, or was made-up, or was fabricated necessarily, etc.
No, I'm not implying that.And you're also implying that everything in the Bible was just simply made-up, or was all just simply fabricated also?
See above. But there is good evidence that some bible stories are fabrications, which is why many people don't take them literally.But I do also have to ask you very much seriously if you truly and 100% objectively think you can truly believe all of that first of all, or actually? And do so 100% truly objectively? or really do 100% truly objectively think that 100% of everything in the Bible was all just truly made-up, or was all just truly 100% fabricated actually?
Perhaps we should start where you just read what I said, which concerned the logical implications of claims of major real-world events that left 'absolutely no evidence'.Because if you really do think you can say that for 100% sure, or with 100% surety, then I would most definitely have to accuse you of some very extreme and very severe bias 100% most definitely, etc. Because it isn't all fabricated or made-up actually, etc.
So why don't we start with where you might maybe have to admit that some of it is true maybe?
And go from there first maybe, etc?
If there is absolutely no evidence for it, yes. See my sig.Does that apply to the Resurrection as well?
That is the amazing thing. Bacteria breaks the elements down so another life form can use them. Yet we still have fossils and other remains from a long time ago. We have people found in bogs that did not determinate much at all and the DNA was still preserved in them. Most everyone today is going to be related to anyone that lived 10,000 years ago. The only question is how direct is their connection. Of course everything that ever was is related in some sort of way. Along with DNA we do inherit some memories. God has left an amazing record of what has gone on before us.Events in the world leave evidence, whether you can detect it or not.
If justice is what God says it is and natural law is God's laws of physics, that statement is tautological.God is a God of justice and He can only follow HIs own laws of physics. Miracles are not a violation of natural law as some people suggest.
So God can't do what God can't do?God can not do anything contrary to Himself. For example, He can not lie, cheat, steal and so on.
Who says what the 'law of God' is, and on what authority? Many people have claimed to be guided by God, even within a single religion in a single culture there are differing opinions on what the laws of God require. Who is right? How do you know?There are lawless people today who feel we do not have to follow the law of God and they are wrong.
If there is absolutely no evidence for it, yes. See my sig.
I said that the Justice of God is JUST as exact and precise as the Laws of Physics.If justice is what God says it is and natural law is God's laws of physics,
Everyone agrees that genesis 2 17 is talking about spiritual death. That is why we need to be born again.The God of the bible appears to lie and/or cheat, e.g. Genesis 2:17, Matthew 16:28,
My father asked that question all of his life. The answer is do not trust in man but trust in God and the Holy Spirit of God to be out guide and our teacher. When God judges people it is them and God and NO ONE else. So we trust in God, not people. Not even ourselves. I have a situation I do not know what to do and I do not need to know. I can just trust it to God to work it all out for me.Who is right? How do you know?
It is the first time I have ever heard the consequences of chaos being described as precise and exact. It seems possible your undertanding of the butterfy effect is neither precise, nor exact.If you ever heard of the butterfly effect nature can be pretty precise and exact.
Everyone? Various authorities have argued it is about physical death, in the sense of the introduction of mortality. Others have suggested a combination of spiritual and physical death. Absolutes are often, thought not always, deceptive. Worth thinking about.Everyone agrees that genesis 2 17 is talking about spiritual death.
Why is it that a significant proportion of that "working it all out" results in violent death?I have a situation I do not know what to do and I do not need to know. I can just trust it to God to work it all out for me.
In all my years you have described yourself more exact and precise then anyone I have ever seen.It is the first time I have ever heard the consequences of chaos being described as precise and exact. It seems possible your undertanding of the butterfy effect is neither precise, nor exact.
Yes, everyone that is taken serious. You can make some bogus claims that no one pays any attention to. God watches over every word we speak so it is no big deal if you want to pick at the words I use because God is the one that will hold us accountable for what we say.Everyone?
Actually I have died and been revived many times. God does tell me that if I had judged myself then I would not have been in a position where He would have to revive me. I just had an abrasion for Vtech, so I am up and running again for a while.Why is it that a significant proportion of that "working it all out" results in violent death?
You need to get out more.In all my years you have described yourself more exact and precise then anyone I have ever seen.
There are many respected Christian theologists who would disagree with that. Feel free to remain with closed, or downward looking eyes if it makes you more comfortable.Yes, everyone that is taken serious. You can make some bogus claims that no one pays any attention to. God watches over every word we speak so it is no big deal if you want to pick at the words I use because God is the one that will hold us accountable for what we say.
Now would you like to address my point, rather than ramble irrelevantly (and, one might argue, irreverently).Actually I have died and been revived many times. God does tell me that if I had judged myself then I would not have been in a position where He would have to revive me. I just had an abrasion for Vtech, so I am up and running again for a while.
@common prophets meet @sjastroExodus wasn't the cause, Egyptian loanwords in the Semitic language was accelerated by the Egypt's 18th dynasty's military expansion into the Levant.
Prior to this the Hyksos a Semitic speaking people who conquered most of Egypt formed the 16th dynasty; their name is an Egyptian loanword "ḥqꜣ-ḫꜣswt" meaning rulers of a foreign land.
In fact it was the Egyptians who used many Hyksos loanwords such as these.
I doubt there is much similarity between Semitic to either Sanskrit or German as Semitic is part of the Afroasiatic language tree.
Sanskrit and German are from the Indo-European language tree.
I "got out more" plenty when I was younger. I am doing good right now to get out of bed.You need to get out more.
Sorry, did I not give you the scripture? Are you saying they disagree with the Bible? Matthew 12 36 "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment."There are many respected Christian theologists who would disagree with that.
@FrumiousBandersnatch, and others.@FrumiousBandersnatch
I trying to find out where you establish the goalposts between what you think is fabricated or made-up about the Bible, and what is not, or might not be, etc. So I'm going to try and find out where that is at by starting out by asking you just a few questions that I might think are somewhere in-between, or might be somewhere in the middle, but that you might think are not maybe, etc? Anyway, that's what I'm going to try and attempt to find out, ok?
You've basically said or admitted that some things in it or about it might or are or could be real or true, etc, but that still others are not in your view, etc?
So, let me just try this first just to try and find out where you are at, and then after that, or after I have a good indicator of that maybe, then I might ask you a few more later on, or after that some more maybe, ok?
And let's try this as a gauge first, etc, ok.
And let's go to the NT, with Jesus and the Apostles first, since it is the more, or is the most recent, ok.
Do you think any super or other natural was ever done by any of them at all, or that God ever did any kind of super or other natural for them any of them in the NT ever at all, etc?
Of all of them in the NT, which there is a lot, etc, do you think any of them was ever in any kind or real way real of true or not, or was ever done by some kind of super or other natural power that came or could have come from any kind of a God/god, etc?
Yes or No?
Please keep in mind that I'm just trying to find out where you are at here, etc, ok.
Take Care/God Bless.
And I'm guessing your not going to believe Jesus was crucified and was resurrected or raised from the dead or whatever.@FrumiousBandersnatch, and others.
Do any of you think any of the reports that we have in the NT, by Jesus or any of the Apostles or disciples, or whatever, of any of the super or other natural they were either able to do, or were doing,bor that happened to them or with them or around them or whatever, was any of them actually "real" or actual or true in the NT, or whatever?
Now regardless of what you think about these people, or maybe even Jesus himself, or whatever, like maybe you think they were decieved, or didn't know the whole truth about certain events in the OT or whatever, events/happenings like Adam and Eve, or the creation account/story/narrative, or a literal global flood, or a literal Exodus, or whatever, anyway, regardless of all of that or whatever, and what they (including maybe even Jesus) maybe thought about those or whatever, do you think any of the super or other natural events that we have recorded in the NT, were any of them, any of them at all, actually real, or actual, or whatever?
Cause if even any of them were, etc, then that power, or that or those abilities, had to come from "somewhere", etc.
So, where do you think they came from or whatever? Or how were they able to do what they did, or whatever? Or how did what happened to them or with them or around them actually happen or whatever?
And is it possible to still get or receive this kind of power, even while maybe not having or knowing the whole truth maybe, or even maybe while believing a lie or whatever?
Tell me what you guys think about all of this, etc?
If even some of them or a few of them or even one of them in the NT was real or actual or true or whatever, then where do you think that power/ability came from or whatever?
And do you think it's still possible even while following or believing a lie, or maybe a partial lie maybe, or whatever?
God Bless.
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