Excluded for being a "bastard."

[redking]

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[wiggbuggie]

you mean excluded from a church? find another one their is nothing wrong with being a bastard

 

[rocklife]

sorry to hear that. I hope a church is not doing that, God is a Father to the Fatherless, I suggest to seek reading His words in the New Testament more than go to church, especially if that is how they treat you.

 

[Mistoffelees]

He might mean the verse Deuteronomy 23:2. [BIBLE]A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord. [/BIBLE]

 

[wiggbuggie]

hmm this translation states it differently:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+23:2

a little bit but Jesus blood washes away all sin

 

[heron]

Whatever your deleted post was, it sounds very sad.

We all run across time where we feel rejected by other people who we expected would welcome us. It's painful. But it's rarely worth changing to try to please people, because we just can't. People don't choose to be pleased. (I'm assuming you don't have choice.)

I caught myself being ornery several times today, and realized that I have almost given up being gracious about backhanded insults and condescension. What happened to my ideals!

And churches are full of people like me, who have bad days and hold on to bad experiences, then take it out on others. It shouldn't be this way, but we are all cranky and irritable, and change makes us nervous.

Look back at the situation --whatever it was -- and see if it might have been one irritable person having a bad day. Or a group of leaders who had just gone through a threatening experience.

Try again at a place that can handle it.

 

[Mistoffelees]

hmm this translation states it differently:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+23:2

a little bit but Jesus blood washes away all sin

What do you mean it translates it differntly? What does the second one say? They both seem to mean the same to me.

 

[heron]

One of the definitions of the same word "assembly" was a meeting of strategy for war or invasion.

 

[elijah115]

What do you mean it translates it differntly? What does the second one say? They both seem to mean the same to me.

If you read the whole of the chapter it's talking about ammonites etc & forbidden marriages.

 

[Angeldove97]

And please don't forget we also live under the New Covenant---the one where Jesus' blood will forgive all sins.

 

[Mistoffelees]

What are ya'll talking about? I looked up assembly and I get "a group of persons gathered together for a common purpose" and congregation is "a group of people who adhere to a common faith and habitually attend a given church". But whatever, then here's the International Childern's Bible version "No one born to parents who were forbidden by law to marry may come into the meeting to worship the lord . His descendants for ten generations may not come in ethier." I'm gonna go eat my neighbor's grapes now. ;-)

 

[heron]

I'm gonna go eat my neighbor's grapes now

It's from the a definition of the Hebrew word used, instead of the English word. It still can mean the same thing, but is also open to more possibilities.

shall enter the assembly of the LORD.
(Click links for Hebrew words)

Strong's #6951

lhq from (06950) Qahal kaw-hawl' Definition

1. assembly, company, congregation, convocation
   1. assembly
      1. for evil counsel, war or invasion, religious purposes
   2. company (of returning exiles)
   3. congregation
      1. as organised body

From Studylight.org

(I wonder what happened to Redking )

 

[Aibrean]

Jesus died to save everyone...not just people who have married parents.

You can't take one passage out of context and live in fear thinking it applies to you as it is Mosaic law..a chapter previously says "Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together" and "No Ammonite or Moabite or any of his descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, even down to the tenth generation." a verse after. I (granted, I would need to read that entire section of Deuteronomy) have read up on it and found this interesting from a commentary on the subject:

"The "10 generations" rule was probably used to emphasize that God detests this practice to the point that you will NEVER have an esteemed place with Israel. This wording could mean that they were permitted to live among the Israelites, but as second-class residents not permitted to partake in some of the congregational activities."

This has nothing to do with present-day church (although I don't know to the extent of Jewish traditions). In my opinion, you can't help being born but you CAN help how you are living!