Evolutionism is not science but fool hypothesis

Starcrystal · Mar 28, 2004

I know all about the "basking shark" theory. does that head & neck look like a basking shark, or any shark? Those crew members drew that sketch of the carcass before they dumped it.
In whose opinion are they crackpot sites? I've looked at both. To be honest the scientific community is split over what it was.
http://www.gennet.org/facts/nessie.html
Since no one is refuting the photos are real, all we have to do is LOOK to see the creature is no shark...

Perhaps if I post a picture of De-nile river, it will be recognized?

toff · Mar 28, 2004

Starcrystal said:
I know all about the "basking shark" theory. does that head & neck look like a basking shark, or any shark? Those crew members drew that sketch of the carcass before they dumped it.
In whose opinion are they crackpot sites? I've looked at both. To be honest the scientific community is split over what it was.
http://www.gennet.org/facts/nessie.html
Since no one is refuting the photos are real, all we have to do is LOOK to see the creature is no shark...

Perhaps if I post a picture of De-nile river, it will be recognized?

It LOOKS like just what it is - a very badly decomposed animal. To jump to the idea that it is a pleisiousaur is completely unwarranted.

I'll ignore the stupid De-nile line.

Captain_Jack_Sparrow · Mar 28, 2004

Starcrystal said:
Actually in the Martian wind a tin foil had would prove fruitless. You would need a 1/4 inch thick aluminum helmet with a chin strap

Mars coming close the earth and causing an upheaval due to gravitational forces is not outside the realm of possibility by any means. In the 1990's a comet crashed into Jupiter. In Sept 2004 the asteroid Toutatis will come 1,000,000 miles from earth. These things are known to happen. In August 2003 Mars came much closer to earth than it has in centuries.

Why do people dismiss things such as this? We see they certainly CAN happen, so why deny that they HAVE happened in the past?

A stripped atmosphere, evaporation of water into space, where the vapours can be caught in another planets gravitational field is certainly quite feasable. We know there was water on Mars: where is it??

You literally don't have a clue do you?

I mean you get material you cannot parse and then spread it on with some extra bells and whistles.

You flat out 100% cannot understand the scientific content of the stuff you read, can you?

Mars didn't leave it's orbit, silly. It was just ever so slightly closer at opposition than normal. Opposition occurs every 26 months.

In September 2287 it will be closer still.

This goes over your head doesn't it?

Captain_Jack_Sparrow · Mar 28, 2004

********* A CHALLENGE TO STARCRYSTAL *********

Please calculate the tidal forces on the Earth due to Mars?

Please show me your calculations. You can use standard potential theory - you don't have to expand the potential in spherical harmonics and such. i.e. point mass for Mars.

LisaStar · Mar 28, 2004

You literally don't have a clue do you?

I mean you get material you cannot parse and then spread it on with some extra bells and whistles.

You flat out 100% cannot understand the scientific content of the stuff you read, can you?

Mars didn't leave it's orbit, silly. It was just ever so slightly closer at opposition than normal. Opposition occurs every 26 months.

In September 2287 it will be closer still.

This goes over your head doesn't it?

This is getting close to flaming but we'll be nice and not report it. You guys make fun of peoples alien experiences, then you belittle them because their science doesn't agree with your science. You don't know what we know or what we've been through. The head of that decomposed animal looks like the head of a plesiosaur and not shark. To think otherwise is denial. For some reason people don't want to admit these things are real. Its really sad
And we know astronomy and what opposition is. He never said Mars left its orbit in 2003. Its not what he said. If we go back over these posts we can find a number of posts where others have misquoted starcrystal and said things he never even said. We had to report this twice already because the misquoting got so out of hand.

toff · Mar 28, 2004

Starcrystal said:
Actually in the Martian wind a tin foil had would prove fruitless. You would need a 1/4 inch thick aluminum helmet with a chin strap

Mars coming close the earth and causing an upheaval due to gravitational forces is not outside the realm of possibility by any means. In the 1990's a comet crashed into Jupiter. In Sept 2004 the asteroid Toutatis will come 1,000,000 miles from earth. These things are known to happen. In August 2003 Mars came much closer to earth than it has in centuries.

Why do people dismiss things such as this? We see they certainly CAN happen, so why deny that they HAVE happened in the past?

A stripped atmosphere, evaporation of water into space, where the vapours can be caught in another planets gravitational field is certainly quite feasable. We know there was water on Mars: where is it??

I missed this one earlier; it's a beauty. A nice lot of fantasy mixed with some doomsday warnings and scientific impossibility. Right up there with the rest of the tin foil hat brigade.

toff · Mar 28, 2004

LisaStar said:
This is getting close to flaming but we'll be nice and not report it. You guys make fun of peoples alien experiences, then you belittle them because their science doesn't agree with your science. You don't know what we know or what we've been through. The head of that decomposed animal looks like the head of a plesiosaur and not shark. To think otherwise is denial. For some reason people don't want to admit these things are real. Its really sad
And we know astronomy and what opposition is. He never said Mars left its orbit in 2003. Its not what he said. If we go back over these posts we can find a number of posts where others have misquoted starcrystal and said things he never even said. We had to report this twice already because the misquoting got so out of hand.

Oh, please. The head of that decomposed animal can't even be seen. It's so decomposed you can't tell which bit is which. To leap to "plesiosaur" is completely unwarranted.

As for what starcrystal has said, he has talked a lot of nonsense, falsehoods and lies in this thread. If he doesn't like what he says being refuted, perhaps he should stop posting rubbish.

Captain_Jack_Sparrow · Mar 28, 2004

LisaStar said:
This is getting close to flaming but we'll be nice and not report it. You guys make fun of peoples alien experiences, then you belittle them because their science doesn't agree with your science. You don't know what we know or what we've been through. The head of that decomposed animal looks like the head of a plesiosaur and not shark. To think otherwise is denial. For some reason people don't want to admit these things are real. Its really sad
And we know astronomy and what opposition is. He never said Mars left its orbit in 2003. Its not what he said. If we go back over these posts we can find a number of posts where others have misquoted starcrystal and said things he never even said. We had to report this twice already because the misquoting got so out of hand.

No it's not flaming. Because it's not a case of science vs science it's a case of wrong opinions vs. science.

Captain_Jack_Sparrow · Mar 28, 2004

Oh my God. UFO people. Worse than YEC's.

By the way - you might want to delve a little more into the "basking shark/plesiosaur" issue. Instead of just reading the nutcase websites.

Challenge I issued earlier still open for Starcrystal.

Mmm by the way - LisaSTAR & STARcrystal - think there may be a connection?

Starcrystal · Mar 28, 2004

Please calculate the tidal forces on the Earth due to Mars?

Please show me your calculations. You can use standard potential theory - you don't have to expand the potential in spherical harmonics and such. i.e. point mass for Mars.

Great, so you challenge me in a field involving math and something I haven't done in years, except when I review the results of others conclusions. But I can tell you right off that the tidal forces on earth from Mars in present orbit, or even at opposition are negligible, if not non-existant. This does not however account for the forces that may be exerted during a very close pass such as Velikovsky proposed. But now your asking me to do research when its getting late and i have to work tomorrow. So I'll have to look into it later. Not avoiding it, but I'm just tired of being on this computer for hours.

Starcrystal · Mar 28, 2004

Mmm by the way - LisaSTAR & STARcrystal - think there may be a connection?

Wow, I'm being accused of posting falsehoods & lies, but some of you don't even know we're husband & wife? I thought everyone on CF knew that! Look at our photos.... I'm the guy, LisaStar is the girl, lest there be further confusion....

Captain_Jack_Sparrow · Mar 28, 2004

Starcrystal said:
Wow, I'm being accused of posting falsehoods & lies, but some of you don't even know we're husband & wife? I thought everyone on CF knew that! Look at our photos.... I'm the guy, LisaStar is the girl, lest there be further confusion....

No I didn't know.

Now, any chance of calculating the tidal effects of Mars on the Earth.

Do you have any idea how far off base you are with your hypotheticals earlier?

Captain_Jack_Sparrow · Mar 28, 2004

Oh NO! It's a Velikovsky idea.

Run for the hills!

How did Mars or Venus that Velikovsky said passed close get in their current orbits?

You see this is the kind of nonsense that irritates me. You yourself cannot do thses calculations but you read a nut like Velikovsky and accept his stuff. Ever notice how Velikovsky has no calculations in there. Mmmm - I wonder why?

LisaStar · Mar 28, 2004

Toff.....As for what starcrystal has said, he has talked a lot of nonsense, falsehoods and lies in this thread. If he doesn't like what he says being refuted, perhaps he should stop posting rubbish.

In your opinion Toff, not everybodies. To accuse someone of telling lies is a pretty serious allegation. I don't see anyone here showing any evidence that solidly shows what he's posted to be untrue. Theres a lot of controversial and inconclusive evidence being thrown back and forth. You can think its rubbish and nonsense if you want to, but saying he's telling lies is wrong. Your profile says your atheist. We are Christians. We're not going to agree on everything, and just because you personally don't believe in a spiritual realm does not mean there isn't one.

michabo · Mar 28, 2004

Starcrystal said:
This does not however account for the forces that may be exerted during a very close pass such as Velikovsky proposed.

How did mars get into this eccentric orbit in the first place? Where was it formed? How did it leave this near-earth orbit to achieve the one it presently has? Before you answer, have you calculated the forces required?

Captain_Jack_Sparrow · Mar 28, 2004

LisaStar said:
In your opinion Toff, not everybodies. To accuse someone of telling lies is a pretty serious allegation. I don't see anyone here showing any evidence that solidly shows what he's posted to be untrue. Theres a lot of controversial and inconclusive evidence being thrown back and forth. You can think its rubbish and nonsense if you want to, but saying he's telling lies is wrong. Your profile says your atheist. We are Christians. We're not going to agree on everything, and just because you personally don't believe in a spiritual realm does not mean there isn't one.

Well maybe not lies - but garbage from a physics standpoint.

toff · Mar 28, 2004

LisaStar said:
Theres a lot of controversial and inconclusive evidence being thrown back and forth.

No, there isn't. There's a lot of crank pseudo-science and rubbish being posted by StarCrystal. People who post nonsense tend to get told they are posting nonsense. If the don't like it, they shouldn't post their nonsense in the first place, they should just go hang out at timecube.com with others of their level.

Starcrystal · Mar 28, 2004

Toff,
they should just go hang out at timecube.com with others of their level.

Timecube would fit more the description of what your'e saying. Honestly, we had a good laugh when someone told us about timecube a few months ago. I even wrote an expose' on it.

Captain Jack Sparrow,
Well maybe not lies - but garbage from a physics standpoint.

Would you consider Stephen Hawkings physics to be "garbage"?? I actually could apply a lot of what he'd set forth to some of my experiences, as well as having some of his theories revealed to me by "entities" prior to my reading his works.... Just wondering.
Brane worlds... Time loops... 11 - 12 dimensional universe, etc.

toff · Mar 28, 2004

Starcrystal said:
Timecube would fit more the description of what your'e saying. Honestly, we had a good laugh when someone told us about timecube a few months ago. I even wrote an expose' on it.

Would you consider Stephen Hawkings physics to be "garbage"?? I actually could apply a lot of what he'd set forth to some of my experiences, as well as having some of his theories revealed to me by "entities" prior to my reading his works.... Just wondering.
Brane worlds... Time loops... 11 - 12 dimensional universe, etc.

Judging by what you're posting, timecube should be right up your alley. Why don't you ask your "entities", lol...funny how these entities never seem to reveal anything worthwhile...until AFTER someone else has published it...then its "Oh yeah, my entities told me about that..."

Peiper · Mar 28, 2004

Stephen Hawking's theories were "revealed" to Starcrystal by "entities."

Ooooh boy.

Starcrystal, a question for you: Aren't your, *ahem* "personal experiences," a bit off-topic and bloggish. The topic supposedly deals with evolution.

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