For your benefit...you should stop thinking this is "my personal interpretation."
Lol, after you've been paddled over your inconsistency multiple times now? Not hardly!
Only a human's personal interpretation could be that off the mark.
Read His Words Cabal. I don't ask you to believe anything I say...but I do ask you to believe Him.
Already do, so there is no issue.
That argument is very tiring...and has nothing to do with this.
If you'd care to read carefully, you'd notice that it wasn't the same argument.
But I can see why you're still keen to ignore that argument - as ever, it is what makes your inconsistency and your denial of your personal interpretation of the Bible clear as day.
So, you didn't make the comment about creationists as having a, "
staggering lack of intellectual competence?"
About some. Therefore, not all. And this doesn't mean that scientists are all smarter than creationists or are superior, but merely that there are a lot of creationists whose limited ability hold them back from understanding science.
I'm sorry you are so sad Cabal...those stupid little creationist minds can be just unbearable at times.
Oh, the lack of intelligence isn't what bothers me. It's the attitude that often goes with it - that the mere fact of having an opinion is somehow meant to trump research, and that anyone who remotely sticks up for science is some kind of faulty Christian. Or that it's somehow become acceptable for scientists to be one of the few professions around where any unqualified, uneducated joe can tell them what their job is or how they're doing everything wrong or trying to unseat God or whatever nonsense they've thought up.
They just don't have the capacity to understand what the truly wise ones do. Perhaps it's because they still have the minds of apes? What do you think?
Some of them certainly are in the shallow end of the gene pool.
We are blessed to have you with us.
What? Just going by what the Bible says. Isn't that what you wanted me to do?
No, unfortunately it doesn't...however it does teach us how to behave as we learn.
It's a shame that some creationists never seem to learn to behave. Nor learn.
One may be utterly incapable at science and another utterly incapable at accepting truth and then...another totally capable of both science and truth. Those my friend are truly wise ones.
Yup - theistic evolutionists have got both down. Who else does?
One must act respectful of others in order to receive the respect of others[/I]. ~ Whirlwind
Many creationists don't merit respect at all in that case.
Didn't know you were dishing it in my direction. I have a healthy ego Cabal. I don't feel stupid or that I lack wisdom. So, what you're throwing around doesn't influence me.
Ignorance is bliss, I'm sure.
Please read the verse I posted again. You weren't compared to devils. If you feel a connetion know it isn't me leading you there.
Whatever, wouldn't be the first time you've hid behind the Bible to pass comment like that in this thread.
As for the beliefs of the majority of brothers and sisters. First, I don't find that to be truthful. Second, I'm not calling them liars. I am saying evolution is a lie.
Didn't say you were calling them liars - still doesn't mean calling something you have displayed absolutely no understanding of a lie is remotely reasonable, rational or justifiable.
As I said before...the lie is what is written by our Father or the lie is written by Darwin.
False dichotomy fail.
To claim agnosticism with evolution is a tad silly. It ELIMINATES Him from the equation. In essense, there is "no deity" for we evolved and were not created.
No, it is agnostic because it can address neither involvement NOR lack of involvement of God. It's simply not capable of doing that - the degree of involvement is not knowable. It can't rule him in, it can't rule him out (lest we forget, this is the same approach to EVERY modern scientific theory, you know, all the other ones you accept besides your arbitrary uninformed rejection of evolution). Therefore it is closer to agnostic than atheistic.
How do you know Cabal? Because they disagree with you and Darwin?
Nope, because they repeatedly display a failure to grasp the most basic explanations of the subject. Sometimes this is wilful rejection, sure - but in many cases it really is down to a lack of ability.
If that was true then does that make all those that don't agree with me blithering idiots. It works both ways you know.
Not really. Pontificating on the Bible as you are doing is opinion, and that's all it ever can be. Science is empirical.
Please show me the error.
You accused me of thinking they were less honorable, worthy and deserving. The only statement I made was that some are less intelligent. It's a statement of fact, not an attempt to render them undeserving of anything, or whatever spin you try to put on it.
So science is your god? It is the deciding truth of all truths.
Not what I claimed. Again, stop twisting my words.
I said that there is correct and incorrect within science. Not that it decides all truth.
Oh my, I've been barking up the wrong tree. Oh wait...no I'm learning from the Tree of Life...it's the other tree that tells fibs.
Evolution is the exact opposite of Creation.
That's not an answer to the question.
I'll ask again - science has not included God as explanation for several centuries, well before evolution came along. It was all obtained despite not including God as the explanatory mechanism. So, why do you not reject all science? Why merely evolution?
If you have no problem with this for everything, then merely "leaving God out of science" is not an objection to evolution as you don't have a problem with it being done with 99% of the other scientific theories.
Depite your claims of flat earth, sun around earth, etc. being written...they are not!
According to your interpretation - not to that of a flat-earther or geocentrist.
Creation is and the theory of evolution presents a choice.
Sure. You can needlessly reject either or reconcile both.
It is what it is. They revere evolution...it is their god.
Except they don't worship it, so it's not.
Christianity is a way of life...not a religion. I don't lack confidence.
Fine - then all religions are a way of life. I'm not sure why they can't be described as that.
Then why do you believe the other things written in the Bible?
Because I choose to.
My logic isn't faulty...just some have difficulty in understanding.
Sure it's faulty. "Because atheists accept it" is not a valid criterion for dismissing anything.
Wouldn't leaving Him out of Creation be a bit like leaving gas out of your car, or sugar out of the brownies, or truth out of Scripture?
You tell me, WW - you're the one who accepts him being left out of the scientific theories that aren't evolution.
And you choose to believe this incorrect, anti-biblical theory along with the atheists?
Yes, along with gravity and atomic theory! Y'know,
all the other theories that don't include God that you accept too!
Oh, but I care about you and you haven't yet recognized your fallible human theory but....I pray you do.
Spare me the patronising. Acknowledge your own chronic lack of recognition of your own fallibility.
True. One shall be judged on what one does, what one believes, what one teaches...no "I was ignorant" excuse for "it is written," and He tells us to "take heed" of man's teaching and "search the Scriptures" to find truth.
Well, it is written that God is not a liar, which is what he'd have to be for the various flavours of creationism to be true.
Ignore what Cabal? Ignore heeding the teaching of a man, of an atheist or ignore what is written by God.
Oh, you want me to ignore the teaching of a man? Then I'll ignore your fallible human interpretation of Genesis, rendered all the more fallible by your utter denial of it being an interpretation.
Thanks
Anyway, the warning was not to ignore the trend of people being pushed away from Christianity altogether (some even from within the church) due to the unwillingness of creationists to embrace reason. I'd hate to be responsible for something like that, but hey-ho. People make their beds.