I get that Satan put words into the snake's mouth and tempted Eve and Adam. But how did the snake go from A to B before God punished it? It's not much of a punishment if the snake already crawled on its belly.
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Evolution theory in the Bible?
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John Hyperspace
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It could very well be. I've read a number of literal interpretations of Genesis which operate by evolutionary understanding. They have support, and it's not possible to determine if they are correct or not. The same with all other models, pretty much. Anyone who tells you it's not possible, or that their interpretation of Genesis 1 is "certainty and all other literal interpretations certainly false" are either being intentionally dishonest (though surely this is not the usual case) or don't know how preposterous their claims of "certainty" really are in the face of literal interpretation of the Hebrew language.
There is just no certainty in literal interpretation, and I personally do not believe God cares one whit about either our personal literal understandings, or even that we understand literally at all. What's important is the state of your heart, and understanding of heavenly things (meaning, spiritual things like, love, mercy, compassion, forgiveness, etc.)
There is just no certainty in literal interpretation, and I personally do not believe God cares one whit about either our personal literal understandings, or even that we understand literally at all. What's important is the state of your heart, and understanding of heavenly things (meaning, spiritual things like, love, mercy, compassion, forgiveness, etc.)
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Presumably the text assumes that serpents lost their limbs by way of this curse, it is the way the author of the text, or those who originated the story, sought to explain why snakes had no limbs--it is a somewhat incidental part of the story nonetheless.
This really hasn't anything to do with evolution though, the fossil evidence demonstrates that snakes and lizards are closely related members of the reptile squamata group, at some point the ancestor of today's snakes had reduced limbs, we see some members of the lizard family with a similar characteristic (the glass lizards). This would have been many millions of years ago.
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For us Baha'is the story of Adam and Eve in the Garden is to be understood as a spiritual allegory rather than being taken literally. Abdul-Baha has given one possible explanation:
We will explain one of them, and we will say: Adam signifies the heavenly spirit of Adam, and Eve His human soul. For in some passages in the Holy Books where women are mentioned, they represent the soul of man. The tree of good and evil signifies the human world; for the spiritual and divine world is purely good and absolutely luminous, but in the human world light and darkness, good and evil, exist as opposite conditions.
The meaning of the serpent is attachment to the human world. This attachment of the spirit to the human world led the soul and spirit of Adam from the world of freedom to the world of bondage and caused Him to turn from the Kingdom of Unity to the human world. When the soul and spirit of Adam entered the human world, He came out from the paradise of freedom and fell into the world of bondage. From the height of purity and absolute goodness, He entered into the world of good and evil.
~ Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, p. 122
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Ever seen an army marching? Its the snake crawling on its belly ever since evil came into the world.
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It maybe incidental but it could be God's crypted message of evolution for us and we missed it until Darwin revealed this to the rest of the world.
It's a bit like Muslims claiming God revealed the Big Bang Theory by quoting a passage of "God's stretching hands".
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"On your belly you shall crawl and dust you shall eat,
all the days of your life." Genisis 3:14.
So such a bad curse?
Dust is everywhere.
Would be convenient if we could live on dust.
We cry out to G-d for help,
the snake has no need to it needs nothing and that is a curse.
A poor man is always aware of a blessing and turn to G-d for help and guidance every day.
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Its mans punishment because right after that you had death with abel. Sorry if I write kind of frantic im ay work lol. I thought you were asking why God told the snake it will crawl on its belly if its already a snake.
I strongly believe this is the case, considering the jewish meshiac (sp) is a militant hero, anti christ from christian perspective.
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